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Re: Open Annotation RDFa (again)

From: Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 12:06:20 -0400
Message-ID: <CAFPX2kCd52u5KzSv0u6jfs6RUSm4_H8UnBxtStj9Dc8HFfn_Og@mail.gmail.com>
To: Benjamin Young <bigbluehat@hypothes.is>
Cc: public-openannotation <public-openannotation@w3.org>
+1 I think mapping to existing HTML 'templates' would be extremely
valuable... if not crucial.

Paolo


On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Benjamin Young <bigbluehat@hypothes.is>
wrote:

> Agreed!
>
> I'll be "surfacing" any iteration I make on this representation to (at
> least) the list, and if it seems valuable onto the wiki.
>
> One particular interest--beyond just understanding OA in RDFa in
> general--is determining how best to map it into existing ("found") HTML--as
> seen in current distributions of WordPress, Drupal, etc.
>
> The goal being to map (as much as possible) OA in RDFa into that markup
> without disturbing the style or even structure (where possible) of the
> existing markup.
>
> That's obviously a much harder thing, so I decided to start with "new"
> markup. But that was mostly for me and (by extension) Hypothes.is as I hope
> to get the "ideal" RDFa (+ our styling / structure needs) into our markup
> output.
>
> That's the backstory. :) I'll be raising questions here, for sure.
>
> Thanks!
> Benjamin
> --
> Developer Advocate
> http://hypothes.is/
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Paolo Ciccarese <
> paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Benjamin,
>> I think it would be good to have that discussion directly on this mailing
>> list if that makes sense to you.
>> If you have access to the wiki, you are also welcome to update/extend
>> that page accordingly.
>>
>> In that page I incorporated already feedback from community members
>> including Ivan Herman.
>>
>> Best,
>> Paolo
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Benjamin Young <bigbluehat@hypothes.is>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Paolo! Not sure how I'd missed that...I'd been looking at the
>>> newer WG wiki:
>>> https://www.w3.org/annotation/wiki/
>>> ...and apparently didn't dig deep enough into the mailing list archives.
>>>
>>> Doug Schepers pointed me to this thread:
>>>
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-openannotation/2014Jan/0037.html
>>>
>>> Which I think was the genesis of the examples on the wiki page you
>>> linked to.
>>>
>>> I'll process all of that as "feedback." :)
>>>
>>> Thanks again, Paolo,
>>> Benjamin
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Paolo Ciccarese <
>>> paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Benjamin,
>>>> here is a wiki page on the RDFa topic:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/wiki/RDFa
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Paolo
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Benjamin Young <
>>>> bigbluehat@hypothes.is> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I found and read through an earlier thread I found in the list
>>>>> archives on a possible RDFa representation of the OA Core Data Model. I'd
>>>>> already crafted one of my own, and found that the RDF/graph output was
>>>>> similar--hopefully it's accurate too! :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I wrote up the exploration in a blog post:
>>>>> https://hypothes.is/blog/open-annotation-rdfa-using-hypothes-is-json/
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using our (Hypothes.is) JSON document as a foundation, then piping
>>>>> it through Mustache.js, and out into HTML+RDFa.
>>>>>
>>>>> The hope is to explore a basic RDFa representation of OA, so we can
>>>>> begin encouraging CMS plugins (etc) to publish whatever comments and
>>>>> annotations they have in some form of RDF. "Peppering" some new markup into
>>>>> existing comment templates seemed like low hanging fruit. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Once it's there, hopefully others out here making OA-focused tooling
>>>>> can harvest that data and do useful things with it--in or out of the
>>>>> browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> Feedback is very welcome, as I hope to make this better, and share the
>>>>> output with a wider audience once the dust settles on this idea. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Benjamin
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Paolo Ciccarese
>>>> Assistant Professor of Neurology, Harvard Medical School
>>>> Assistant in Neuroscience, Massachusetts General Hospital
>>>> Senior Information Scientist, MGH Biomedical Informatics Core
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>>
>>
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Assistant in Neuroscience, Massachusetts General Hospital
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