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Re: Trackbacks as annotations

From: Simeon Warner <simeon.warner@cornell.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:55:35 +0200
Message-ID: <525FDE47.3050502@cornell.edu>
To: Ed Summers <ehs@pobox.com>
CC: public-openannotation <public-openannotation@w3.org>
Hi Ed,

Although I can't give a timeline for implementation, I do intend that 
arXiv URLs like http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.4001 will do conneg to HTML 
(the current splash page) and to linked data (RDF/XML and JSON-LD 
perhaps) representations.

If we come up with a stable set of LD for arXiv before we have conneg 
implemented then I agree that it would be good add the <link> you 
suggest (and perhaps also keep with conneg). For now the LD under
http://resync.library.cornell.edu/lod/ is not stable enough that I'd 
want to advertize it from the real arXiv.

(Without wanting to open up some http-range-14 argument... my current 
inclination is that we'll do 200 with a Content-Location header to the 
HTML, and real 303 to LD reps.)

Cheers,
Simeon


On 10/16/13 6:21 PM, Ed Summers wrote:
> Thanks for sharing Simeon. I have to ask, is there a plan to have URLs
> like http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.4001 to do conneg of some kind? Have
> you considered something like adding a:
>
>      <link rel="describedby" href="http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.4001.rdf">
>
> to the HTML at http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.4001 ?
>
> I guess this is no longer directly related to annotation ...
>
> //Ed

On 10/16/13 6:23 PM, Ed Summers wrote:
> Sorry that probably should have been:
>
>    <link rel="describedby" type="application/rdf+xml"
> href="http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.4001.rdf">
>
> and/or
>
>    <link rel="describedby" type="application/json"
> href="http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.4001.json">

> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Simeon Warner
> <simeon.warner@cornell.edu> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been looking at how to express trackbacks recorded at arXiv.org as
>> annotations. Seems like a good conceptual match to me, anyone disagree?
>>
>> I am thinking of something like the following in JSON-LD (complete set at
>> [1] in RDF/XML though dates missing):
>>
>> {
>>    "@graph": [
>>      {
>>        "@id":
>> "http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227025.400-milky-way-may-hide-dark-matter-pancake.html",
>>        "http://purl.org/dc/terms/title": "Milky Way may hide dark matter
>> 'pancake' - 01 April 2009 - New Scientist"
>>      },
>>      {
>>        "@id":
>> "http://resync.library.cornell.edu/lod/tb/all#30f161cfc317f33628fa200a47b62914043b9152",
>>        "@type": "http://www.w3.org/ns/oa#Annotation",
>>        "http://www.w3.org/ns/oa#annotatedAt": "2009-04-02T02:03:04Z",
>>        "http://www.w3.org/ns/oa#annotatedBy": "http://arxiv.org",
>>        "http://www.w3.org/ns/oa#hasBody": {
>>          "@id":
>> "http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227025.400-milky-way-may-hide-dark-matter-pancake.html"
>>        },
>>        "http://www.w3.org/ns/oa#hasTarget": {
>>          "@id": "http://resync.library.cornell.edu/lod/abs/0902.4001"
>>        },
>>        "http://www.w3.org/ns/oa#motivatedBy": {
>>          "@id": "http://www.w3.org/ns/oa#commenting"
>>        }
>>      }
>>    ]
>> }
>>
>> The http://resync.library.cornell.edu/lod/abs/0902.4001 URI is a surrogate
>> for the real arXiv article URI (which would be
>> http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.4001 but does not yet support conneg).
>>
>> It seems that without knowing more than we do, the best general motivation
>> we can express is "commenting".
>>
>> Any comments welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Simeon
>>
>>
>> [1] http://resync.library.cornell.edu/lod/tb/all
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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