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Re: May a Specific Resource be object of the oa:hasScope relationship ?

From: Lutz Suhrbier <l.suhrbier@bgbm.org>
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:28:46 +0100
Message-ID: <51434C3E.2040109@bgbm.org>
To: Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>
CC: public-openannotation@w3.org
Hi Paolo,
> Hi Lutz,
> I am not sure I understand completely what you are doing as I see only 
> an abstract example.
>
> I would probably use a SpecificResource 
> http://www.openannotation.org/spec/core/specific.html#Specific
> in combination with a FragmentSelector 
> http://www.openannotation.org/spec/core/specific.html#FragmentSelector
> therefore I would use a oa:hasSource rather than oa:hasScope.
Oh yes, I overlooked  the possibility of using XPointer as fragment 
selector. I am currently not quite sure if it is allowed to be used with 
URNs too(we can not use URLs to identify data records in or use case), 
but at a first glance, it looks that the standard does not forbid that. 
So, I don't need to define a XPath Selector anymore. Good News.
>
> A typical use of oa:hasScope is when you are annotating an image (with 
> a URI) displaying in a webpage.
> The oa:hasSource is the image, the selector is for instance a 
> oa:SvgSelector and the oa:hasScope is the webpage.
Hmm, I know that my use case is not quite typical as all recent 
discussions went around that image in a web page example. That's why I 
am asking to the list, if it would be "forbidden" to use oa:hasScope in 
the way I described ?
So, can I use oa:hasScope within a Specific Body  to point at the 
(resolvable)URI of a Specific Target, which defines somehow the context 
in which the scoped body content should be seen by a client (application) ?

May be a short example:
Lets have a XML-document urn:uuid:doc01 as source. In my annotation I 
define 2 Specific Targets aggregated in a Composite, 
urn:uuid:doc01#xpointer(/a) and urn:uuid:doc01#xpointer(/b).
Now I have two Specific Bodies also aggregated in a composite, one is 
holding contentAsText:"aaa", the other "bbb" and I want that the one 
holding "aaa" should only be applied in context with Specific Target 
urn:uuid:doc01#xpointer(/a) , the one holding "bbb" only with Specific 
Target urn:uuid:doc01#xpointer(/b).
Finally, I want to add property "oa:hasScope 
urn:uuid:doc01#xpointer(/a)" to Specific Body "aaa" and "oa:hasScope 
urn:uuid:doc01#xpointer(/b)" to Specific Body "bbb" in order to express 
this with OA 1.0.
Is this possible ?

Lutz




>
> Hope it helps,
> Paolo
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Lutz Suhrbier <l.suhrbier@bgbm.org 
> <mailto:l.suhrbier@bgbm.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     in our project, we are dealing with record data which is usually
>     exchanged in domain specific XML documents. The system enable
>     users to annotate these record data, where one annotation may
>     comprehend  multiple record data elements. Therefore, annotations
>     will be recorded as a set of XPath expressions, each of them
>     mapped with annotated value and comment information. (same use
>     case as discussed in
>     http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-openannotation/2012Sep/0017.html).
>
>     Now, with OA 1.0 released, i started to remodel our use case with
>     the new version. The new multiplicity concepts were very helpful
>     for this and solved most problems arising in the last discussion
>     from September.
>     So,  the list of XPath expressions for a given target can now be
>     organised by a Composite of Specific Target resources, where I
>     introduced a simple XPath-Selector to hold the XPath expression
>     addressing  the annotated record data element. Likewise, I
>     organised Specific Body resources in a Composite, where each Body
>     holds the corresponding annotated value and comment information
>     for one of the Specific Targets.
>     Now, I want to use the hasScope relationship to outline the
>     Specific Target a Specific Body relates to. Or in terms of OA, to
>     specify a Specific Target as object of the |oa:hasScope|
>     relationship that somehow scopes or provides the context for the
>     (Specific Body) resource in this Annotation (i.e. Xpath expression
>     within a record data document).
>
>     Finally, as all samples contain just webpages or images as
>     resources, my simple question is if my interpretation of the OA
>     1.0 document is right and using it that way would not contradict
>     to the intended usage of the hasScope property ?
>
>     Please find attached two figures, one depicts our data model, and
>     the other our corresponding OA representation.
>
>     Best regards
>     Lutz
>
>
>
>
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