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Re: Recording geolocation of the annotation (where the annotation has been created)

From: Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:30:54 -0400
Message-ID: <CABevsUEPD+ZJ21oPEoSckCQZc=icFtiNsi6eAh3Eku1qOQSJKw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>
Cc: public-openannotation <public-openannotation@w3.org>
The use of prov:atLocation, associated with the annotating activity seems
like a good approach to me at the PROV level.  To follow the mapping into
the OA predicates, I think your suggested annotatedAtLocation is the right
term with a clear translation into the full PROV model.

Any PROV folks like to comment? Stian? Antoine?

Rob




On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Paolo Ciccarese
<paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>wrote:

> In second analysis, I believe that seems ok if we associate
> prov:atLocation to the Activity of 'annotating'?
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Paolo Ciccarese <
> paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rob,
>> that is a good point.
>>
>> As I would like to record the location of the 'annotation creation', it
>> would probably be better to have something like oa:annotatedAtLocation then?
>> That would be more consistent with the OA model. Unfortunately it seems
>> less in line with how others do it :/
>>
>> I see in PROV the property: **http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#atLocation
>> but I am still not sure the definition ("The Location of any resource.")
>> is compatible with what I am trying to do.
>>
>> Maybe we can ask to the PROV folks?
>>
>> Paolo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Paolo,
>>>
>>> While I'm happy with using the geo ontology, I'm not sure that
>>> geo:location is the right predicate to use with the Annotation, given the
>>> collapsing of the annotation document/concept.  Is it the annotating or
>>> serializing activity, in PROV terms, which the location is referring to?
>>>
>>> The ontology defines geo:location as:
>>>     "The relation between something and the point, or other geometrical
>>> thing in space, where it is."
>>>
>>> I'm not sure that the location of the annotator at the time they created
>>> the annotation concept is "where it [the annotation] is."  That seems more
>>> like the location of the storage system (annotation as document) or just
>>> not a point in space (annotation as a concept).
>>>
>>> Could you explain how you would see the mapping into the PROV model?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Paolo Ciccarese <
>>> paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was looking into recording the geolocation at the annotation level
>>>> (where the annotation has been generated, not the body).
>>>>
>>>> Is the vocabulary:
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#
>>>> the best option?
>>>>
>>>> How do we recommend to link it to the annotation?
>>>>
>>>> I was looking at this:
>>>> http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_and_Geo_/_Location_Data
>>>>
>>>> Are we good with this?
>>>> geo:location [ geo:lat "48.0802626"; geo:long "11.6407428". ].
>>>>
>>>> vCard seems another options as explained in that page.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Paolo
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
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