W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > public-openannotation@w3.org > February 2013

Re: Two concrete/practical cookbook examples of Semantic Tags

From: Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 10:36:46 -0500
Message-ID: <CAFPX2kC7XY6mcFaLmKF25jg46zq-KMSycNFhTdoRQEJY+r9yOA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
Cc: public-openannotation@w3.org
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote:

> On 2/4/13 3:40 PM, Paolo Ciccarese wrote:
>
>> Two concrete/practical examples of Semantic Tags.
>> Please, just look at the RDF and the figure, I still working on the text.
>>
>> 1) A DBpedia entry used as semantic tag on an image:
>> http://www.w3.org/community/**openannotation/wiki/SE_**
>> Semantically_Tagging_an_Image<http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/wiki/SE_Semantically_Tagging_an_Image>
>> In this case I can attach oa:Tag (oa:SemanticTag?) to the URI directly as
>> it is a DBpedia 'resource.
>>
>> 2) Two URIs used as semantic tags while bookmarking a webpage
>> http://www.w3.org/community/**openannotation/wiki/**
>> Bookmarking_and_Tagging_a_**Webpage#Open_Annotation_**Representation<http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/wiki/Bookmarking_and_Tagging_a_Webpage#Open_Annotation_Representation>
>> The URIs also identify the HTML page for those entities so I used the
>> SpecificResource construct as Rob suggested.
>>
>> Should we keep two different constructs?
>> Comments?
>>
>
>
> As already said I don't like the Specific Resource pattern. It messes the
> message of Specific Resources, by letting one think semantic tags can be
> obtained by "refining" a source, the same way that other specifiers do. But
> in the case of semantic tags of course there's nothing analogous to
> selectors, states, etc. Which shows well in your example: there's only
> oa:hasSource attached to your tag, which renders a bit absurd the use of
> the SR pattern.
>
> If one wants to tie a semantic tag to a document that is very closely
> connected to it (one could say the document defines the concept) I'd
> recommend using something else. For example foaf:isPrimaryTopicOf:
> http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#**term_isPrimaryTopicOf<http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#term_isPrimaryTopicOf>
> Again, I strongly believe trying to address such generic concept/document
> problems into the OA machinery itself can only bring problems.
>

I am not sure I understand what you are saying. Are you suggesting to not
include Semantic Tags?
Could you take one of my examples and rephrase it as you would do it?

Paolo
Received on Monday, 4 February 2013 15:37:14 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.3.1 : Tuesday, 6 January 2015 20:22:03 UTC