- From: Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>
- Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:28:02 +0200
- To: public-ontolex@w3.org
- Message-ID: <53BBD5C2.8060406@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>
OK, the thing is: I am working with Protegé and I do not know how to create a subclass axiom without importing the ontology. If somene can help and remove the import but keeping the owl subclass axioms linking to semiotics.owl, then this would be the perfect solution I think. Any volunteers? You can directly change the ontology in bitbucket and create a merge request. Philipp. Am 06.07.14 21:49, schrieb Armando Stellato: > > Well, you can “mention” resources from another ontology, without > having to owl:import it (write an owl:import statement between your > vocabulary and the target one). This is mostly suggested when your > ontology A is “connected” to another one B but does not strictly need > B for computing the inferences which are inherent to its (of A) model. > > With an owl:import, any tool which performs automatic transitive > closure of owl:imports, will download all of the target ontologies of > the owl:imports and in turn, of their owl:imported ontologies. Not > using it, prevents this from happen (though a user is always free to > import ontologies of other mentioned resources manually). > > In our case, if we put links to semiotics.owl in a dedicated module, > then I would say it is not a problem to use an owl:import, because if > you use that module, then you are explicitly willing to use > semiotics.owl. If links are reported in the core module, then totally > agree with John. > > Cheers, > > Armando > > P.S: I’ve almost certainly said some redundant and trivial things up > there: sorry in advance, just was not sure about the exact scope of > the technical question > > *Da:*Philipp Cimiano [mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de] > *Inviato:* domenica 6 luglio 2014 21:26 > *A:* public-ontolex@w3.org; public-ontolex@w3.org > *Oggetto:* Re: ontolex.owl > > Hi John, all, > > ok so what does it mean technically "to include links to > semiotics.owl ... avoiding an OWL import statement" ? > > Philipp. > > Am 03.07.14 06:44, schrieb John P. McCrae: > > Hi, > > We should include links to semiotics.owl and other relevant > resources, but unless we are dependent on that model we should > avoid using an OWL import statement > > Regards, > John > > On 2 Jul 2014 21:02, "Philipp Cimiano" > <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de > <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>> wrote: > > Aldo, > > right. Is anyone against including this alignment in the spec. > > Please shout now or be silent forever. > > Philipp. > > > Am 27.06.14 16:23, schrieb Aldo Gangemi: > > Too late for the call, sorry. > Yes, that is what I intended: it’s bizarre that we include > an alignment without even mentioning in the spec :) > A > > On Jun 27, 2014, at 4:18:22 PM , Philipp Cimiano > <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de > <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>> wrote: > > Hi Aldo, > > not sure I get your comment. Are you saying: If you > import semiotics.owl, please mention it also in the spec? > Just trying to understand what exactly is bizarre ;-) > > Philipp. > > Am 27.06.14 14:21, schrieb Aldo Gangemi: > > Hi I will try to attend this telco. Anyway, I > missed the discussion about not including > semiotics.owl in the spec. I remember we said > these alignments should not be part of the core > itself, but maybe we should mention that it exists > in the owl implementation, and why. As it is, it > sounds bizarre :) > Aldo > > sent by aldo from a mobile > > On 23/giu/2014, at 08:28, Philipp Cimiano > <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de > <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>> wrote: > > Dear all, > > I have been working on ensuring consistency of > the ontolex.owl module with the spec. > > I have: > > 1) made sure that all axioms in the ontology > correspond to those in the spec; the ontology > is consistent ;-) > 2) ensured that all domain / ranges match > 3) introduced examples illustrating the use in > the git under directory "Examples" > 4) included the semiotics.owl ontology as we > decided some time ago; we agreed to not have > this in the spec, but in the actual ontology, > see ontology file > > I attach the current version of the > ontolex.owl module (see attached). > > I would kindly ask you to help me to ensure > that the example in Examples are fine. I did > not find a service to validate the files (they > are in Turtle syntax). Can someone please > check them and modify them appropriately, > modifying also the spec where these example > are given? > > I would like to finalize the model on our > telco on Friday, so please raise any concerns > this week. > > Please carefully review the ontology and the > text; if you spot any issues, please let me know. > > I have added a pointer to the GIT in the main > wiki page. > > Best regards, > > Philipp. > > > -- > > Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano > > Phone: +49 521 106 12249 > <tel:%2B49%20521%20106%2012249> > Fax: +49 521 106 12412 > <tel:%2B49%20521%20106%2012412> > Mail: cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de > <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de> > > Forschungsbau Intelligente Systeme (FBIIS) > Raum 2.307 > Universität Bielefeld > Inspiration 1 > 33619 Bielefeld > > <OntolexCore.png> > > -- > -- > Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano > AG Semantic Computing > Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology > (CITEC) > Universität Bielefeld > > Tel: +49 521 106 12249 <tel:%2B49%20521%20106%2012249> > Fax: +49 521 106 6560 <tel:%2B49%20521%20106%206560> > Mail: cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de > <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de> > > Office CITEC-2.307 > Universitätsstr. 21-25 > 33615 Bielefeld, NRW > Germany > > > -- > -- > Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano > AG Semantic Computing > Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC) > Universität Bielefeld > > Tel: +49 521 106 12249 <tel:%2B49%20521%20106%2012249> > Fax: +49 521 106 6560 <tel:%2B49%20521%20106%206560> > Mail: cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de > <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de> > > Office CITEC-2.307 > Universitätsstr. 21-25 > 33615 Bielefeld, NRW > Germany > > > > > -- > > Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano > > Phone: +49 521 106 12249 > Fax: +49 521 106 12412 > Mail:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de> > > Forschungsbau Intelligente Systeme (FBIIS) > Raum 2.307 > Universität Bielefeld > Inspiration 1 > 33619 Bielefeld -- -- Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano AG Semantic Computing Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC) Universität Bielefeld Tel: +49 521 106 12249 Fax: +49 521 106 6560 Mail: cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de Office CITEC-2.307 Universitätsstr. 21-25 33615 Bielefeld, NRW Germany
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