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Re: Request Re Editing Charter

From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 17:09:35 -0600
Cc: public-oilgaschem@w3.org
Message-Id: <FAA08F33-4FD9-4342-AACC-41BCAEBDF006@w3.org>
To: Roger Cutler <rogercutler@gmail.com>

On 6 Dec 2011, at 5:03 PM, Roger Cutler wrote:

> Right.  I've been putting some more stuff in, including a section in which I say, "@@@ ... I have no idea ...@@@.  In other words, I started a sentence and I had no idea what the answer was.  You might want to look at that one, Ian. 

You wrote in the charter under deliverables:

 "Ontologies - public once completed. Possibly contributed to a different organization for further maintenance and updates, in which case the @@@ ... I have no idea what would be public and what the receiving org would control @@@."

Short answer regarding what the BG licenses do:
 
 * COPYRIGHT: The contributor agreement includes a permissive copyright. Downstream parties may reuse text and create derivative works.
 * PATENTS: Patent commitments only apply to the BG's specifications and whatever moves to the W3C Recommendation Track.

Therefore, if people develop a derivative work in another organization and they want patent commitments from people (who were in the BG) they need to get those separately.

Does that help?

Ian

> 
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> wrote:
> 
> On 6 Dec 2011, at 4:26 PM, Roger Cutler wrote:
> 
> > I'm not clear what your initial comment about the history is intended for.  Do you want it explicitly referenced in the charter?  Or are you just pointing it out to me?  I know it's there, but to be honest I find it difficult to navigate the links in the history and understand what I'm seeing.  No doubt my skills will improve.
> 
> I was pointing it out to you and others. You mentioned history in your email but (1) it was further down and (2) no URI. So I wanted to give the URI for all to check it out.
> 
> I agree that reading diffs is not always fun and so it's friendly to summarize changes.
> 
> Ian
> 
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 6 Dec 2011, at 2:59 PM, Roger Cutler wrote:
> >
> > > Just to help me keep track of what's going on and to avoid getting into an unintentional do-undo back and forth -- if you edit the draft charter could you please email me and give me a hint what you did?
> >
> > Hi Roger,
> >
> > I want to point out up top (you mention it below) the editing history:
> >  http://www.w3.org/community/oilgaschem/wiki/index.php?title=Oil,_Gas_and_Chemicals_Business_Group_Charter&action=history
> >
> > > Ian -- I think that you took out the voting and patent sections because there are no requirements, right?
> >
> > Right:
> >
> > 1) The proc doc voting requirements don't apply to BGs.
> > 2) The patent requirements are covered by the CLA and FSA; you could link to them but I thought it was unnecessary.
> >
> > > It does seem to me, however, that it might be a good idea to discuss the IP framework for Community and Business Groups anyway, as an informational thing.
> >
> > No problem with that.
> >
> > > I have in mind pointing to the IP page for Community groups and perhaps including some "user friendly" approximate discussion along the lines that you once sent me.  Sound OK?
> >
> > I would avoid paraphrasing the policy. You could just say something vanilla like "Contributions are made under Community and Business Group agreements" with a link to the agreements.
> >
> > [Meanwhile, I am working on a summary of the policy (not yet ready).]
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > >
> > > Jennifer -- I find the history tracking of the Wiki confusing and I can't figure out what you did.  Not much, as far as I can tell -- unless I am confusing what you did with what Ian did.  Did you sort of complete what he started?
> > >
> > > I am not trying to discourage anyone from adding content or modifying.
> >
> > --
> > Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
> > Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
> >
> >
> 
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> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
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