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From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:26:23 +0100
To: public-mwts@w3.org
Message-ID: <1263918383.25337.1892.camel@altocumulustier>
Hi,

The minutes of our call today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html

and copied as text below.

Dom

    Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference

19 Jan 2010

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0027.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          wilhelm, dmitri, Kai, dom

   Regrets
   Chair
          Wilhelm

   Scribe
          dom

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]WCTMB2
         2. [6]Test assertions methodology
         3. [7]Next call
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

   <hendry> oh i think i failed to mention i tried changing video to
   HTMLVideoElement, though it didn't work for me either

   <hendry> bit confused about HTML5 video interface

WCTMB2

   <dom_scribe> [9]Wilhelm's status report on WCTMB2

      [9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0031.html

   Wilhelm: we should start testing it on actual phones before making
   the relrease
   ... we should also make it possible to submit results

   ACTION-103?

   <trackbot> ACTION-103 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look into
   recording test results from WCTMB2 using XHR and db -- due
   2010-01-26 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [10]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/103

     [10] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/103

   Dom: starting doing that; would need to know if we do that
   automatically or semi-automatically

   <hendry> i think a server can easily filter this stuff :)

   Wilhelm: would be worried that doing that automatically would drown
   us under too many results
   ... I think submitting manually would be sufficient

   Dom: I'm ok with both approaches; maybe manual will be sufficient,
   based on our experience with WCTBM1

   Kai: I prefer automatically, but I guess I can see that manual will
   work too

   Dom: OK, will implement the manual version then

   close ACTION-104

   <trackbot> ACTION-104 Review new tests from wilhelm closed

   <dom_scribe> [11]Kai's comments on Wilhelm new tests

     [11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0025.html

   Kai: I'm a bit worried about the size of the font file, it feels a
   bit big
   ... should we be worried about the different font formats? e.g. WOFF

   Wilhelm: I think sticking with TTF for now is probably best

   Kai: no IP issue in this case?

   Wilhelm: WOFF is mostly TTF + metadata

   Kai: ok, so TTF might be adequate then
   ... also, the validator reports a problem with the date inputfield

   <scribe> ... new canvas test seems simpler, sounds good

   Wilhelm: regarding font size, I can try stripping it out

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to look at trimming font file [recorded in
   [12]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-107 - Look at trimming font file [on
   Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2010-01-26].

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to fix <input type="date" /> in WCTMB2
   [recorded in
   [13]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-108 - Fix <input type="date" /> in WCTMB2
   [on Kai Hendry - due 2010-01-26].

   ACTION-96?

   <trackbot> ACTION-96 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to review and
   integrate audio and video tests in WCTMB2 -- due 2010-01-12 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [14]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/96

     [14] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/96

   Wilhelm: video test still failing in Opera/FF
   ... will look in fixing it

   Kai: do you know about the named interface?

   <hendry> HTMLVideoElement

   Dom: have you tried replacing Video() with HTMLVideoElement()?

   Kai: tried that, but didn't make a difference

   Wilhelm: I'll look at that as part of my action

   ACTION-105?

   <trackbot> ACTION-105 -- Kai Hendry to update localStorage to move
   counter out of test results -- due 2010-01-25 -- PENDINGREVIEW

   <trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/105

     [15] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/105

   close ACTION-105

   <trackbot> ACTION-105 Update localStorage to move counter out of
   test results closed

   Kai: we discussed putting it somewhere else, right?

   dom: we discussed putting it after the list of results, but I don't
   think that matters much

   close ACTION-106

   <trackbot> ACTION-106 Add the user agent string in the detailed
   results closed

   Wilhelm: I've moved the user agent string in the details part

   Kai: better idea, indeed!

   Dom: what's your feeling? what are our chances to call it done next
   week?

   Wilhelm: good I think
   ... we still need testing

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to test wctmb2 on his devices [recorded in
   [16]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action03]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-109 - Test wctmb2 on his devices [on
   Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2010-01-26].

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to test wctmb2 on his devices [recorded in
   [17]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-110 - Test wctmb2 on his devices [on Kai
   Hendry - due 2010-01-26].

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to test wctmb2 on his devices [recorded in
   [18]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action05]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-111 - Test wctmb2 on his devices [on
   Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2010-01-26].

   <scribe> ACTION: Dmitri to test wctmb2 on his devices [recorded in
   [19]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action06]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-112 - Test wctmb2 on his devices [on
   Dmitri Sileav - due 2010-01-26].

   Kai: would be good to return a permalink to submission results

   ACTION-103: give back permalink to results submission

   <trackbot> ACTION-103 Look into recording test results from WCTMB2
   using XHR and db notes added

   Wilhelm: we should prepare an announcement

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to draft announcement of WCTMB2 [recorded in
   [20]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action07]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-113 - Draft announcement of WCTMB2 [on Kai
   Hendry - due 2010-01-26].

Test assertions methodology

   <dom_scribe> [21]Update to methodology document

     [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0030.html

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to review new version of methodology [recorded
   in [22]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action08]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-114 - Review new version of methodology
   [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2010-01-26].

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to review new version of methodology
   [recorded in
   [23]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action09]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-115 - Review new version of methodology
   [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2010-01-26].

   Dom: let's confirm next week that we want to publish

   Dmitri: the draft signals problems at the top right corner

   <scribe> ACTION: Dmitri to review the new version of methodology
   [recorded in
   [24]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action10]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-116 - Review the new version of
   methodology [on Dmitri Sileav - due 2010-01-26].

Next call

   January 26

   Wilhelm: will be traveling; will send everything needed in advance

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Dmitri to review the new version of methodology
   [recorded in
   [25]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dmitri to test wctmb2 on his devices [recorded in
   [26]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to review new version of methodology [recorded in
   [27]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action08]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to test wctmb2 on his devices [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to draft announcement of WCTMB2 [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to fix <input type="date" /> in WCTMB2 [recorded
   in [30]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to test wctmb2 on his devices [recorded in
   [31]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to look at trimming font file [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
   [NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to review new version of methodology [recorded
   in [33]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
   [NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to test wctmb2 on his devices [recorded in
   [34]http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action05]

   [End of minutes]
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