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[minutes] September 15 teleconf

From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:22:48 +0200
To: public-mwts@w3.org
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Hi,

The minutes of our call today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2009/09/15-mwts-minutes.html
and copied as text below.

Our next call will be two weeks from now (Sep 29) since there will be
test creation event next week.

Dom


    Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference

15 Sep 2009

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2009/09/15-mwts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Kai, wilhelm, dom, dmitri, Carmelo

   Regrets
   Chair
          Wilhelm

   Scribe
          dom

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Widgets testing
         2. [5]WCTMB2
         3. [6]OMA
         4. [7]Misc announcements
         5. [8]Next meeting
     * [9]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

Widgets testing

   <dom_s> [10]Widgets P&C Test doc

     [10] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/waf/widgets/tests/

   <dom_s> [11]Upcoming test creation event

     [11] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TestWorkshop2009

   Kai: we've been preparing for the event next week
   ... building some scripts that should help coordinate the event
   ... I hope to get much further together on the P&C tests

   Wilhelm: Hari, one of my testers, will be there; he's developed a
   bunch of tests and will see what can be shared

   Kai: would be great if he could bring along a version of Opera that
   somewhat implements the W3C spec version

   Wilhelm: will see what can be done on that

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to check if Hari can bring more up-to-date
   version of Opera core for widget testing events [recorded in
   [12]http://www.w3.org/2009/09/15-mwts-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-78 - Check if Hari can bring more
   up-to-date version of Opera core for widget testing events [on
   Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-09-22].

   ACTION-76?

   <trackbot> ACTION-76 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to review
   [13]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/tests/ -- due 2009-09-15 --
   PENDINGREVIEW

     [13] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/tests/

   <trackbot> [14]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/76

     [14] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/76

   close ACTION-76

   <trackbot> ACTION-76 Review
   [15]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/tests/ closed

     [15] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/tests/

   <dom_s> [16]Dom's comments

     [16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Sep/0003.html

   ACTION-52?

   <trackbot> ACTION-52 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to draft a blog post
   on SPARTAN -- due 2009-05-26 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/52

     [17] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/52

   Wilhelm: correcting last typos, will publish tomorrow

   Kai: I've been working on synchronizing the test plan with the list
   of existing tests

   Dom: I'm happy to help

   <dom_s> [18]list of tests in XML format

     [18] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/waf/widgets/tests/test-suite.xml

   <hendry> wilhelm,
   [19]http://dabase.com/blog/Contribute_Widget_tests/

     [19] http://dabase.com/blog/Contribute_Widget_tests/

WCTMB2

   ACTION-74?

   <trackbot> ACTION-74 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to propose an API for
   the tests in WCTMB2 -- due 2009-08-11 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/74

     [20] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/74

   Wilhelm: wrote a very simple test harness
   ... a bit of duplicate work with Kai apparently - will sort it out

   close ACTIOn-74

   <trackbot> ACTION-74 Propose an API for the tests in WCTMB2 closed

   <dom_s> [21]Wilhelm's simple test runner

     [21] http://people.opera.com/wilhelmja/wctmb2/

   ACTION-73?

   <trackbot> ACTION-73 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to create test cases
   for WCTMB2 -- due 2009-08-11 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [22]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/73

     [22] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/73

   ACTION-72?

   <trackbot> ACTION-72 -- Kai Hendry to propose appcache and audio
   test -- due 2009-08-11 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/72

     [23] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/72

   Kai: I've written up an AppCache test but I haven't verified it yet
   ... it seems to trigger some strange bugs in Firefox
   ... For the audio test - didn't remember volunteering for this; I'm
   not sure how to do that

   Wilhelm: check the Javascript Audio object

   Kai: I've been lacking time - will look at it later

   ACTION-75?

   <trackbot> ACTION-75 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to propose tests
   for WCTMB2 -- due 2009-09-15 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/75

     [24] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/75

   <dom_s> [25]Kai's proposal for WCTMB2 harness

     [25] http://wctmb2.webvm.net/

   Wilhelm: in the end, all it will need to do is return a boolean

   Dom: ok, so no score, just binary

   <Carmelo> All sorry for missing last weeks call. Got confused with
   US Holliday and thought it was Monday

   Dom: will propose something before next call then

OMA

   ACTION-21?

   <trackbot> ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's
   feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [26]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21

     [26] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21

   ACTIOn-77?

   <trackbot> ACTION-77 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to review new
   XHTML MP test suite from oma -- due 2009-09-15 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [27]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/77

     [27] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/77

Misc announcements

   <dom_s> [28]PPK's story on testing mobile

     [28] http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2009/09/testing_mobile_2.html

   <dom_s> [29]BrowserScope

     [29] http://www.browserscope.org/

   <dom_s> -> www.browsertests.org BrowsersTests

   Kai: running the Webkit layout tests on different browsers
   ... the HTML5 reference tests from Hixie and Philipp Taylor are not
   there

   Dom: ongoing project

Next meeting

   RESOLUTION: next call on September 29

   <hendry> wilhelm: [30]http://git.webvm.net/?p=wctmb2 is the source

     [30] http://git.webvm.net/?p=wctmb2

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to check if Hari can bring more up-to-date
   version of Opera core for widget testing events [recorded in
   [31]http://www.w3.org/2009/09/15-mwts-minutes.html#action01]

   [End of minutes]
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