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[minutes] May 12 teleconf

From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:44:06 +0200
To: public-mwts@w3.org
Message-Id: <1242143046.4633.23.camel@altocumulustier>
Hi,

The minutes of our call today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-mwts-minutes.html
linked from:
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/
and copied as text below.

Dom

    Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference

12 May 2009

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-mwts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Carmelo, wilhelm, hendry, dom, dmitri

   Chair
          Wilhelm

   Scribe
          dom

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Widget testing
         2. [6]Memory test
         3. [7]Device Independent Testing Guidelines
         4. [8]WCTMB
         5. [9]Blog
         6. [10]OMA
         7. [11]Next meeting
     * [12]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

Widget testing

   <dom_scribe> [13]Widget test suites

     [13] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/waf/widgets/tests/

   ACTION-2?

   <trackbot> ACTION-2 -- Kai Hendry to continue integrating his tests
   WTF -- due 2009-05-01 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [14]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2

     [14] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2

   Kai: still making progress there

   ACTION-36?

   <trackbot> ACTION-36 -- Kai Hendry to provide a tour of WTF during a
   call -- due 2009-05-05 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/36

     [15] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/36

   <dom_scribe> [16]Kai's overview of WTF

     [16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/0012.html

   Kai: probably easier if you read through the blog post
   ... maybe we can discuss it next week
   ... I'd be interested to hear more about other browsers SPARTAN-type
   of systems

   Wilhelm: I know Microsoft does, Mozilla has something similar

   Kai: would be good to collect that information somewhere
   ... for testers out there

   Wilhelm: SPARTAN (our automated regression system) contains 100 000s
   of screenshots that serves a point of comparison
   ... to run it, you need to first label the screenshots that serve as
   point of refs

   Kai: it would be interesting for me to see it in action

   Wilhelm: I can ask my boss if I can blog about it (from our Opera
   blog)

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to follow-up on publishing details about
   SPARTAN [recorded in
   [17]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-mwts-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-47 - Follow-up on publishing details about
   SPARTAN [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-05-19].

Memory test

   ACTION-42 closed

   <trackbot> ACTION-42 Fix the memory test wrt limitation for going
   higher up closed

   ACTION-33?

   <trackbot> ACTION-33 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to re-run memory test
   once limit is raised up -- due 2009-04-21 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/33

     [18] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/33

   Wilhelm: I've sent a report of my results

   <dom_scribe> [19]Memory test results

     [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/0013.html

   Wilhelm: the UI of pass/fail isn't quite right - there are cases
   where I'm not redirected up to the upper limit

   ACTION-33 closed

   <trackbot> ACTION-33 Re-run memory test once limit is raised up
   closed

   Wilhelm: even though I didn't reach the device memory limit

   Kai: I can look into it again, by reproducing the same conditions
   ... it's supposed to prompt you to go higher when it downloads
   everything

   Wilhelm: I got two different fail results (no prompt vs error
   dialog)

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to look again into memory test wrt failures at
   high memory levels [recorded in
   [20]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-48 - Look again into memory test wrt
   failures at high memory levels [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-05-19].

Device Independent Testing Guidelines

   ACTION-43?

   <trackbot> ACTION-43 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to get the DITG
   published as FPWD -- due 2009-05-12 -- PENDINGREVIEW

   <trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/43

     [21] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/43

   ACTION-43 closed

   <trackbot> ACTION-43 Get the DITG published as FPWD closed

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to present the DITG to the W3C chairs [recorded
   in [22]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-mwts-minutes.html#action03]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-49 - Present the DITG to the W3C chairs
   [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-05-19].

WCTMB

   ACTION-39?

   <trackbot> ACTION-39 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to look through Kai's
   proposals for new tests -- due 2009-05-05 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/39

     [23] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/39

   Wilhelm: still pending

   ACTION-44?

   <trackbot> ACTION-44 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to publish updated
   WCTMB and post a blog about the update -- due 2009-05-12 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/44

     [24] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/44

   Wilhelm: I've updated the test
   ... I've prepared a blog post that I can publish right after the
   meeting

Blog

   ACTION-34?

   <trackbot> ACTION-34 -- Carmelo Montanez to draft a blog post on
   memory test (or hand it over to dom otherwise) -- due 2009-04-21 --
   OPEN

   <trackbot> [25]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/34

     [25] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/34

   Carmelo: Done the draft and sent it to Dom for publication

   <dom_scribe> [26]Carmelo's draft

     [26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/0015.html

   ACTION-45?

   <trackbot> ACTION-45 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to propose a plan
   for getting contributions from community -- due 2009-05-12 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [27]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/45

     [27] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/45

   Dom: no progress

   ACTION-46?

   <trackbot> ACTION-46 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to blog about DITG
   publication -- due 2009-05-12 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [28]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/46

     [28] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/46

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to publish Carmelo's draft re memory test in
   the blog [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-50 - Publish Carmelo's draft re memory
   test in the blog [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-05-19].

   Kai: we could publish about WTF

   Dom: good idea

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to draft a blog post on WTF [recorded in
   [30]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-mwts-minutes.html#action05]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-51 - Draft a blog post on WTF [on Kai
   Hendry - due 2009-05-19].

OMA

   ACTION-21?

   <trackbot> ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's
   feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [31]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21

     [31] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21

   ACTION-14?

   <trackbot> ACTION-14 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look back at
   OMA situation and report -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [32]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14

     [32] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14

   [both pending]

Next meeting

   Carmelo: I won't be around on May 26

   Next meeting May 19

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to present the DITG to the W3C chairs [recorded in
   [33]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to publish Carmelo's draft re memory test in the
   blog [recorded in
   [34]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to draft a blog post on WTF [recorded in
   [35]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to look again into memory test wrt failures at
   high memory levels [recorded in
   [36]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to follow-up on publishing details about
   SPARTAN [recorded in
   [37]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-mwts-minutes.html#action01]

   [End of minutes]
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