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[minutes] Tuesday March 17 teleconf

From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:46:19 +0100
To: public-mwts@w3.org
Message-Id: <1237304779.21036.8.camel@altocumulustier>
Hi,

The minutes of our call today are at:
http://www.w3.org/2009/03/17-mwts-minutes.html
linked from
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/

and copied as text below.

Dom

    Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference

17 Mar 2009

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Mar/0013.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2009/03/17-mwts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Carmelo, dom, Kai, dmitri

   Regrets
          Wilhelm

   Chair
          Dom

   Scribe
          dom

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Tracker and trackbot
         2. [6]Widgets testing
         3. [7]Device independent testing guidelines
         4. [8]Memory test
         5. [9]Web Compatibility Test
         6. [10]Blog
         7. [11]Geolocation test suite (ISSUE-4)
         8. [12]Agreement on test suites with OMA
         9. [13]Next meeting
     * [14]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

Tracker and trackbot

   <dom_scribe> [15]Tracker and Trackbot

     [15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-mwts/2009Mar/0002.html

Widgets testing

   ACTION-2?

   <trackbot> ACTION-2 -- Kai Hendry to continue integrating his tests
   WTF -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [16]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2

     [16] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2

   ACTION-2 due next week

   <trackbot> ACTION-2 Continue integrating his tests WTF due date now
   next week

   Kai: still trying to get it running; I'm discussing with Robert

   <scribe> ... no progress on the main body of tests

   Dom: still need help with regard to updating the test suite in CVS?
   cf
   [17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Feb/0011.htm
   l

     [17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Feb/0011.html

   Kai: probably still need an update
   ... I'll send you a link to a tar file

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to update the widget test suites in cvs
   [recorded in
   [18]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/17-mwts-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-22 - Update the widget test suites in cvs
   [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-03-24].

   [19]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/tests/

     [19] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/tests/

   Dom: did you make progress on your pbs wrt special characters in
   filesystems?

   Kai: I don't know what other test suites do with this - git has
   problems with some special characters

   Dom: could put only the zip file, although not ideal

   Kai: also wondered about case insensitivity - how many permutations
   should we target?

   Dom: suggests picking a few relevant cases
   ... e.g. all lowercase, all upper, ext low and base upper, vice
   versa, and one or two more random
   ... Any news from the WebApps WG F2F?

   Kai: nope; I'll look at their minutes

Device independent testing guidelines

   <dom_scribe> [20]Device Independence Testing guidelines

     [20] http://dev.w3.org/2008/dev-ind-testing/guidelines.html

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to look one more time at device independent
   testing guidelines [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/17-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-23 - Look one more time at device
   independent testing guidelines [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-03-24].

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to polish the device independent testing
   guidelines (e.g. ref section) [recorded in
   [22]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/17-mwts-minutes.html#action03]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-24 - Polish the device independent testing
   guidelines (e.g. ref section) [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due
   2009-03-24].

   Kai: is color really important?

   Dom: think it is relevant - esp. in a larger device independent
   context

Memory test

   ACTION-20?

   <trackbot> ACTION-20 -- Kai Hendry to improve performance of memory
   test -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/20

     [23] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/20

   ACTION-20 due in two days

   <trackbot> ACTION-20 improve performance of memory test due date now
   in two days

   ACTION-19?

   <trackbot> ACTION-19 -- Kai Hendry to add more starting points to
   memory test -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/19

     [24] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/19

   ACTION-19 due next week

   <trackbot> ACTION-19 add more starting points to memory test due
   date now next week

   ACTION-18?

   <trackbot> ACTION-18 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to run the memory
   test on his mobile devices -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [25]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/18

     [25] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/18

   ACTION-18 due next week

   <trackbot> ACTION-18 run the memory test on his mobile devices due
   date now next week

   ACTION-16?

   <trackbot> ACTION-16 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to set up the
   memory test on the W3C server -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [26]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/16

     [26] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/16

   ACTION-16 due next week

   <trackbot> ACTION-16 set up the memory test on the W3C server due
   date now next week

Web Compatibility Test

   <dom_scribe> [27]inputmode test vs jquery test

     [27] http://www.w3.org/mid/1236680855.6399.240.camel@localhost

   Kai: it's not in HTML5

   Dom: but hTML5 is more a process than a spec at this stage
   ... used to be there, maybe will come back now that it's being
   implemented in webkit?
   ... also, is in XHTML Basic 1.1, which is a standard

   Kai: think JQuery has more value than inputmode test

   Dom: right...

   Dmitri: we could maybe extend it?

   Dom: would need to go to 20 tests to keep the grid
   ... and then would become harder to sell

   RESOLUTION: replace the inputmode test with the JQuery test

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to update WCTMB with JQuery test [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/17-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-25 - Update WCTMB with JQuery test [on
   Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-03-24].

   <dom_scribe> [29]Results of WCTMB

     [29] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/mobile-test/presults

Blog

   ACTION-17?

   <trackbot> ACTION-17 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to draft a post
   linking to his opera.com blog -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [30]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/17

     [30] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/17

   ACTION-17 due next week

   <trackbot> ACTION-17 draft a post linking to his opera.com blog due
   date now next week

   ACTION-15?

   <trackbot> ACTION-15 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to draft a blog
   post on WCTMB enhancements (either as two or one posts) -- due
   2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [31]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/15

     [31] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/15

Geolocation test suite (ISSUE-4)

   <dom_scribe> [32]Geolocation testing effort

     [32] http://www.w3.org/mid/1236617428.6399.210.camel@localhost

   Kai: I had a quick look
   ... the way they design their tests, I don't think they would work
   on many devices, e.g. pocket IE
   ... we're also working on a testing framework in Aplix

   Dom: any chance it could be brought to Geolocation?

   Kai: once it's mature enough, probably
   ... There are already Google Gears Unit test

   Dom: any chance you could mention your framework to them?

   Kai: I will, as soon as I start implementing some tests

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to mention his geolocation testing framework to
   geolocation wg - due in two weeks [recorded in
   [33]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/17-mwts-minutes.html#action05]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-26 - mention his geolocation testing
   framework to geolocation wg [on Kai Hendry - due 1970-01-01].

   ACTION-26?

   <trackbot> ACTION-26 -- Kai Hendry to mention his geolocation
   testing framework to geolocation wg -- due 1970-01-01 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [34]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/26

     [34] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/26

   <Carmelo> All: Must leave the call now, see you all next week.
   Carmelo

Agreement on test suites with OMA

   ACTION-21?

   <trackbot> ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's
   feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [35]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21

     [35] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21

   ACTION-14?

   <trackbot> ACTION-14 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look back at
   OMA situation and report -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [36]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14

     [36] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14

Next meeting

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to polish the device independent testing
   guidelines (e.g. ref section) [recorded in
   [37]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/17-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to update the widget test suites in cvs [recorded
   in [38]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/17-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to update WCTMB with JQuery test [recorded in
   [39]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/17-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to look one more time at device independent
   testing guidelines [recorded in
   [40]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/17-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to mention his geolocation testing framework to
   geolocation wg - due in two weeks [recorded in
   [41]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/17-mwts-minutes.html#action05]

   [End of minutes]
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