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[minutes] Tuesday April 28 teleconf

From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:20:57 +0200
To: public-mwts <public-mwts@w3.org>
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Hi,

The minutes of our teleconf today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-mwts-minutes.html
linked from
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/
and copied as text below.

Dom


    Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference

28 Apr 2009

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Apr/0009.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-mwts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Wilhelm, Carmelo, Dom, Kai

   Regrets
   Chair
          Wilhelm

   Scribe
          dom

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Widgets testing
         2. [6]Device independent testing guidelines
         3. [7]Memory test
         4. [8]Web Compatibility Tests
         5. [9]Blog
         6. [10]OMA
         7. [11]WCTMB acronym
         8. [12]Next meeting
     * [13]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________



   <trackbot> Date: 28 April 2009

   <hendry> wilhelm: yes, a very high value

Widgets testing

   <dom_scribe> [14]Widgets test suites

     [14] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/waf/widgets/tests/

   ACTION-2?

   <trackbot> ACTION-2 -- Kai Hendry to continue integrating his tests
   WTF -- due 2009-05-01 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2

     [15] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2

   Kai: good news: Robert has been responsive, we've been going back
   and forth

   <hendry> [16]http://wtf.webvm.net/

     [16] http://wtf.webvm.net/

   Kai: and I'm in the process of porting some of the tests to
   [17]http://wtf.webvm.net/ where the framework is now hosted
   ... it's now a lot better!
   ... I still have some questions for Robert - e.g. there is an
   Opera-specific configuration file that would need to be changed to
   comply with the spec
   ... and I'd like to work with the same source control system with
   Robert
   ... hopefully, by next week, I'd like to see all the tests working
   in the framework

     [17] http://wtf.webvm.net/

   Dom: could we have a tour of the framework next week?

   Kai: Sure

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to provide a tour of WTF during a call
   [recorded in
   [18]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-mwts-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-36 - Provide a tour of WTF during a call
   [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-05-05].

Device independent testing guidelines

   <dom_scribe> [19]Device Independent test guidelines

     [19] http://dev.w3.org/2008/dev-ind-testing/guidelines.html

   ACTION-30?

   <trackbot> ACTION-30 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to review Kai's
   version of the guidelines -- due 2009-04-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW

   <trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/30

     [20] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/30

   ACTION-30: closed

   <trackbot> ACTION-30 Review Kai's version of the guidelines notes
   added

   <trackbot> If you meant to close ACTION-30, please use 'close
   ACTION-30'

   <dom_scribe> [21]Dom's comments

     [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Apr/0010.html

   ACTION-30 closed

   <trackbot> ACTION-30 Review Kai's version of the guidelines closed

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to respond to Dom's comments [recorded in
   [22]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-37 - Respond to Dom's comments [on Kai
   Hendry - due 2009-05-05].

   Dom: let's see if we can agree on getting the document published

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to integrate what he wants from Kai's version
   [recorded in
   [23]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-mwts-minutes.html#action03]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-38 - Integrate what he wants from Kai's
   version [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-05-05].

Memory test

   ACTION-32?

   <trackbot> ACTION-32 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to raise limit of
   memory test -- due 2009-04-21 -- PENDINGREVIEW

   <trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/32

     [24] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/32

   ACTION-32 closed

   <trackbot> ACTION-32 Raise limit of memory test closed

   ACTION-33?

   <trackbot> ACTION-33 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to re-run memory test
   once limit is raised up -- due 2009-04-21 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [25]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/33

     [25] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/33

   Wilhelm: I've started doing that - was a bit confusing; my device is
   now downloading insane amount of data and will send feedback

Web Compatibility Tests

   ACTION-35?

   <trackbot> ACTION-35 -- Kai Hendry to look further into DOM Mutation
   impact on mobile browsers -- due 2009-04-21 -- PENDINGREVIEW

   <trackbot> [26]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/35

     [26] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/35

   ACTION-35 closed

   <trackbot> ACTION-35 Look further into DOM Mutation impact on mobile
   browsers closed

   Kai: I asked around to different people I know, esp. among webkit
   people
   ... has been turned off for performance reasons
   ... but after all, I think it's worth keeping

   <dom_scribe> [27]Kai's proposed new tests

     [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Apr/0007.html

   Kai: application cache is probably the most controversial
   ... does opera support this?

   Wilhelm: I don't know :)

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to look through Kai's proposals for new
   tests [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-39 - Look through Kai's proposals for new
   tests [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-05-05].

   Dom: I'm interested in Application cache, but this would require
   removing an existing test

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to provide a version of the wctmb with more
   difficult canvas test [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-mwts-minutes.html#action05]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-40 - Provide a version of the wctmb with
   more difficult canvas test [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-05-05].

   Kai: do we really have an onload test?

   Wilhelm: not exactly - several tests rely on onload

   Dom: so this would be putting two new tests in the balance with
   others

   Kai: I noticed that XXX doesn't look up handheld stylesheet
   ... is that something we want to test for?

   Dom: I think Media Queries probably cover the needs of what we want
   to highlight there
   ... cf my AListApart article :)

Blog

   ACTION-28 closed

   <trackbot> ACTION-28 Blog about new jquery test in wctmb closed

   ACTION-34?

   <trackbot> ACTION-34 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to draft a blog post
   on memory test (or hand it over to dom otherwise) -- due 2009-04-21
   -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [30]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/34

     [30] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/34

   ACTION-34?

   <trackbot> ACTION-34 -- Carmelo Montanez to draft a blog post on
   memory test (or hand it over to dom otherwise) -- due 2009-04-21 --
   OPEN

   <trackbot> [31]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/34

     [31] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/34

OMA

   ACTION-21?

   <trackbot> ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's
   feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [32]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21

     [32] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21

   ACTION-14?

   <trackbot> ACTION-14 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look back at
   OMA situation and report -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [33]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14

     [33] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14

WCTMB acronym

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to add the WCTMB acronym to the test [recorded
   in [34]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-mwts-minutes.html#action06]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-41 - Add the WCTMB acronym to the test [on
   Kai Hendry - due 2009-05-05].

Next meeting

   May 5

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to integrate what he wants from Kai's version
   [recorded in
   [35]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to add the WCTMB acronym to the test [recorded in
   [36]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to provide a tour of WTF during a call [recorded
   in [37]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to provide a version of the wctmb with more
   difficult canvas test [recorded in
   [38]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to respond to Dom's comments [recorded in
   [39]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to look through Kai's proposals for new tests
   [recorded in
   [40]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

   [End of minutes]
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