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From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:22:31 +0200
To: public-mwts@w3.org
Message-Id: <1239722551.12268.1047.camel@localhost>
Hi,

The minutes of our call today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-minutes.html
linked from
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/
and copied as text below.

The call next week is canceled, so our next call will be on April 28.

Dom


    Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference

14 Apr 2009

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Apr/0003.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Carmelo, dom, Wilhelm, dmitri, kai

   Chair
          Wihelm

   Scribe
          dom

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Device independent testing guidelines
         2. [6]Memory Test
         3. [7]Web Compatibility Test
         4. [8]Blog
         5. [9]Widgets testing
         6. [10]back to WCTMB
         7. [11]OMA
         8. [12]canvas on webkit
         9. [13]Next meeting
     * [14]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

Device independent testing guidelines

   ACTION-30?

   <trackbot> ACTION-30 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to review Kai's
   version of the guidelines -- due 2009-04-07 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/30

     [15] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/30

Memory Test

   ACTION-18?

   <trackbot> ACTION-18 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to run the memory
   test on his mobile devices -- due 2009-04-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW

   <trackbot> [16]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/18

     [16] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/18

   <dom_scribe> [17]memory test results on dom's devices

     [17] http://www.w3.org/mid/1239095652.9152.4368.camel@localhost

   ACTION-16?

   <trackbot> ACTION-16 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to set up the
   memory test on the W3C server -- due 2009-04-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW

   <trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/16

     [18] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/16

   close ACTION-18

   <trackbot> ACTION-18 run the memory test on his mobile devices
   closed

   <dom_scribe> [19]W3C version of memory test

     [19] http://qa-dev.w3.org/2009/memory-test/

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to raise limit of memory test [recorded in
   [20]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-32 - Raise limit of memory test [on
   Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-04-21].

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to re-run memory test once limit is raised
   up [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-33 - Re-run memory test once limit is
   raised up [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-04-21].

   close ACTION-16

   <trackbot> ACTION-16 set up the memory test on the W3C server closed

Web Compatibility Test

   ACTION-28?

   <trackbot> ACTION-28 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to blog about new
   jquery test in wctmb -- due 2009-03-31 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [22]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/28

     [22] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/28

   Wilhelm: I've made a draft - ready to publish

   ACTION-31?

   <trackbot> ACTION-31 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to update the
   WCTMB documentation wrt jquery -- due 2009-04-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW

   <trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/31

     [23] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/31

   ACTION-31 closed

   <trackbot> ACTION-31 Update the WCTMB documentation wrt jquery
   closed

   Dom: documentation is now up to date (and so is the diagram)

   <dom_scribe> [24]Kai's concern on mutation test

     [24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Apr/0000.html

   Wilehlm: will discuss that when Kai is around

Blog

   ACTION-29?

   <trackbot> ACTION-29 -- Kai Hendry to blog about Nokia store and
   testing WCTMB -- due 2009-03-31 -- CLOSED

   <trackbot> [25]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/29

     [25] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/29

   ACTION-29 closed

   <trackbot> ACTION-29 Blog about Nokia store and testing WCTMB closed

   Wilhelm: perhaps we could do something on the memory test

   dom: good idea

   <hendry> oh no, i forgot

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to draft a blog post on memory test (or
   hand it over to dom otherwise) [recorded in
   [26]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-minutes.html#action03]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-34 - Draft a blog post on memory test (or
   hand it over to dom otherwise) [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due
   2009-04-21].

Widgets testing

   ACTION-2?

   <trackbot> ACTION-2 -- Kai Hendry to continue integrating his tests
   WTF -- due 2009-05-01 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [27]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2

     [27] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2

   Kai: still waiting from Robert

   Wilhelm: he has been away - should be back this week

   Dom: what's the latest news from Widgets specs land?

   Kai: still the same - waiting for next update end of April
   ... there seemed to be a lot of changes, incl. the section numbers
   (which means I'll have to change the names of my tests)

back to WCTMB

   <dom_scribe> [28]Kai's concern on mutation test

     [28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Apr/0000.html

   Kai: any view from Opera on whether DOM Mutation is over the top for
   mobile devices?

   Wilhelm: we support it, but I don't know much of the details

   Kai: I've been talking with WebKit people and they seem to be
   thinking it's a performance pb

   Dom: should we explore what other browsers do?
   ... e.g. Fennec
   ... or the impact of DOM Mutation on Opera?

   Kai: Firefox supports it, Opera supports it
   ... I haven't checked Google Chrome
   ... no webkit build supports it, although I think it's in the code

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to look further into DOM Mutation impact on
   mobile browsers [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-35 - Look further into DOM Mutation impact
   on mobile browsers [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-04-21].

OMA

   ACTION-21?

   <trackbot> ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's
   feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [30]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21

     [30] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21

   Wilhelm: I have a bunch of data, but needs to make them readable

   ACTION-14?

   <trackbot> ACTION-14 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look back at
   OMA situation and report -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [31]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14

     [31] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14

canvas on webkit

   Kai: I've noticed a pb with canvas on Webkit with alphablending

Next meeting

   Kai: it might be difficult for me to join too

   RESOLUTION: next meeting April 28

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to raise limit of memory test [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to look further into DOM Mutation impact on mobile
   browsers [recorded in
   [33]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to draft a blog post on memory test (or hand
   it over to dom otherwise) [recorded in
   [34]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
   [NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to re-run memory test once limit is raised up
   [recorded in
   [35]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

   [End of minutes]
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