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From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:27:48 +0200
To: public-mwts <public-mwts@w3.org>
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Hi,

The minutes of our teleconf today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html
linked from
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/

and copied as text below.

Dom

                MWI Test Suites Working Group teleconf

16 Sep 2008

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Sep/0016.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          dom, Kai, Wilhelm, Carmelo, dmitri

   Regrets
   Chair
          Dom

   Scribe
          dom

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Performance test suites
         2. [6]Device Independent Testing Guidelines
         3. [7]Cookies test suite
         4. [8]Widgets test suites
         5. [9]Plugin test suite
         6. [10]FYI: new release of SVG 1.2 Tiny test suite
         7. [11]Next meetings
     * [12]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

Performance test suites

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to run the performances test on a few devices
   [recorded in
   [13]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action02] [DONE]

     [13] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action02

   <dom_scribe> [14]Dom's report on running the tests

     [14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Sep/0014.html

   Dom: vast majority of tests didn't work on the devices I tried,
   except for Android
   ... were the devices/browsers I tried too old?

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to run the performances test on a few
   devices [recorded in
   [15]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
   [PENDING]

     [15] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action03

   Wilhelm: opposite impression - they run fine on opera mobile, but
   they take very long

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to run the performances test on a few devices
   and report back to the list [recorded in
   [16]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [PENDING]

     [16] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action04

   Kai: tests worked, but took ages to run

   Wilhelm: did the test actually load on sunspider?

   Kai: HTC one crashed; iPhone took ages
   ... maybe we should prioritize the tests to try?

   Wilhelm: I'm running all of them - it has taken me 2 hours so far

   Kai: ok, will get back to this - will send a message on this this
   week
   ... these tests should run on mobile devices

   Dom: we could at least improve the size of data needed to download,
   the memory required, the number of iterations (given that CPU are
   slower)

   Kai: but it's only a matter of time before someone else release a
   mobile-friendly version of these tests

   Wilhelm: new and future browsers are likely to support these tests
   as is

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to blog about performance tests and mobile
   [recorded in
   [17]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

Device Independent Testing Guidelines

   <scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to start a draft of guidelines on writing
   device independent test cases [recorded in
   [18]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
   [PENDING]

     [18] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02

   <dom_scribe> [19]Carmelo's draft

     [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Sep/att-0020/Guidelines_for_Writing_Moibile_Tests.html

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to review DI testing guielines [recorded in
   [20]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action06]

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to review DI testing guielines [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action07]

Cookies test suite

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to look into opera's test suites for
   cookies [recorded in
   [22]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [PENDING]

     [22] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action04

   Wilhelm: I've started to make it usable for outside of Opera
   ... also working on setting up a framework for Opera to release
   their test suites

Widgets test suites

   Dom: WebApps WG interested in getting help on their testing for
   widgets

   <scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to come back with a plan for helping test
   widgets specs [recorded in
   [23]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action09]

   <dom_scribe> [24]Art's message

     [24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Sep/0015.html

Plugin test suite

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to look closer at the plugin support test
   [recorded in [recorded in
   [25]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action10]

   [26]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
   [PENDING]

     [26] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action09

   Kai: will probably contribute an ActiveX open plugin

FYI: new release of SVG 1.2 Tiny test suite

   <dom_scribe> [27]new release of SVG Tiny test suite

     [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Sep/0013.html

Next meetings

   Dom: I'm away on Sep 23 and 30

   Carmelo: can take up chairing

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Carmelo to come back with a plan for helping test
   widgets specs [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to blog about performance tests and mobile
   [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to look closer at the plugin support test
   [recorded in [recorded in
   [30]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to review DI testing guielines [recorded in
   [31]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
   [NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to review DI testing guielines [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html#action06]

   [PENDING] ACTION: Carmelo to start a draft of guidelines on writing
   device independent test cases [recorded in
   [33]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Kai to run the performances test on a few devices
   and report back to the list [recorded in
   [34]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Wilhelm to look into opera's test suites for
   cookies [recorded in
   [35]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Wilhelm to run the performances test on a few
   devices [recorded in
   [36]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action03]

     [33] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02
     [34] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action04
     [35] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action04
     [36] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action03

   [DONE] ACTION: Dom to run the performances test on a few devices
   [recorded in
   [37]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

     [37] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action02

   [End of minutes]
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