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From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:27:28 +0100
To: public-mwts@w3.org
Message-Id: <1229444848.20116.151.camel@localhost>

Hi,

The minutes of our teleconference today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html
linked from
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/
and copied as text below.

Dom

             Mobile Web Test Suites Working Group teleconf

16 Dec 2008

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Dec/0008.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          dom, Wilhelm, Kai, dmitri

   Regrets
          Carmelo

   Chair
          Wilhelm

   Scribe
          dom

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Widgets testing
         2. [6]Device independent testing guidelines
         3. [7]Web Compatibility Test
         4. [8]Blog
         5. [9]Agreement on test suites with OMA
         6. [10]Next meeting
     * [11]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________



Widgets testing

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to continue integrating his tests WTF [recorded
   in [12]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
   [PENDING]

     [12] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02

   <dom_scribe> [13]Kai's report on WTF

     [13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Dec/0009.html

   Kai: this is somewhat stalled with the holidays coming up
   ... I'll probably be adding tests in my git repository
   ... and then migrate them to the public cvs repository

Device independent testing guidelines

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to review the di guidelines [recorded in
   [14]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
   [PENDING]

     [14] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action09

   Dom: no progress - probably not any before mid-January

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to review the di guidelines [recorded in
   [15]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action10] [DONE]

     [15] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action10

   <dom_scribe> [16]Wilhelm's comments

     [16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Dec/0013.html

   <scribe> ACTION: Dmitiri to review the DI guidelines [recorded in
   [17]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

   <hendry> [18]http://dabase.com/guidelines.html

     [18] http://dabase.com/guidelines.html

   Kai: sent comments to Carmelo some time ago

   [19]http://dev.w3.org/2008/dev-ind-testing/guidelines.html

     [19] http://dev.w3.org/2008/dev-ind-testing/guidelines.html

   [20]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2008/dev-ind-testing/guidelines.html -
   last modification 4 weeks ago

     [20] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2008/dev-ind-testing/guidelines.html

Web Compatibility Test

   <scribe> ACTION: hendry to Contribute test to replace inputmode
   [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/09-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [DONE]

     [21] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/09-mwts-minutes.html#action09

   <dom_scribe> [22]Kai's suggestion for new test in WCTMB

     [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Dec/0009.html

   Kai: goal is to test the memory limitations of mobile devices
   through JSon
   ... We've found that some mobile devices are rather limited there -
   esp. for mashups
   ... but nothing is specified in the ecmascript spec in terms of
   bottom line
   ... so it is hard to come up with a limit
   ... so I'm starting to have doubts about the merits of the test
   ... This seems to be an interesting test to highlight the
   limitations of the mobile platform

   dom: agree it would be delicate to include in WCTMB since no
   standard limit is defined
   ... but we could re-use that test in another context
   ... e.g. in mobile test harness - and advertise it through the blog?

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to refactor the memory limitation test into
   something indicating the max memory [recorded in
   [23]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action06]

   Wilhelm: we could have a series of tests: 8K / 12K /16K, etc

   Kai: sounds like a good idea
   ... In terms of getting a replacement for inputmode, maybe that's
   something we can ask in the blog

   Dom: sounds good - although not sure this will deliver

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to push forward with finding a replacement for
   the inputmode test [recorded in
   [24]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action07]

Blog

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to send feedback on the blog post [recorded in
   [25]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action11]
   [DROPPED]

     [25] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action11

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to look into setting up a system to track
   scores of the WCTMB [recorded in
   [26]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action12] [DONE]

     [26] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action12

   <dom_scribe> [27]Dom's system

     [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Dec/0012.html

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to set up a page showing the results recorded
   on WCTMB [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action10]

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to set up a blog for MWTSWG [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action14] [DONE]

     [29] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action14

   <dom_scribe> [30]Blog set up

     [30] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-mwts/2008Dec/0002.html

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to post an introductory message to the blog
   [recorded in
   [31]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action12]

   <scribe> ACTION: Kai to put his draft blog post on MWTS blog
   [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action13]

Agreement on test suites with OMA

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites
   [recorded in
   [33]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16]
   [PENDING]

     [33] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report
   [recorded in
   [34]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15]
   [PENDING]

     [34] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15

Next meeting

   Next meeting on January 6

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Dmitiri to review the DI guidelines [recorded in
   [35]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to set up a page showing the results recorded on
   WCTMB [recorded in
   [36]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to push forward with finding a replacement for the
   inputmode test [recorded in
   [37]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to put his draft blog post on MWTS blog [recorded
   in [38]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action13]
   [NEW] ACTION: Kai to refactor the memory limitation test into
   something indicating the max memory [recorded in
   [39]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
   [NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to post an introductory message to the blog
   [recorded in
   [40]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action12]

   [PENDING] ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report
   [recorded in
   [41]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Dom to review the di guidelines [recorded in
   [42]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Kai to continue integrating his tests WTF
   [recorded in
   [43]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites
   [recorded in
   [44]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16]

     [41] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15
     [42] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action09
     [43] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02
     [44] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16

   [DONE] ACTION: Dom to look into setting up a system to track scores
   of the WCTMB [recorded in
   [45]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action12]
   [DONE] ACTION: Dom to set up a blog for MWTSWG [recorded in
   [46]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action14]
   [DONE] ACTION: hendry to Contribute test to replace inputmode
   [recorded in
   [47]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/09-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
   [DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to review the di guidelines [recorded in
   [48]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action10]

     [45] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action12
     [46] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action14
     [47] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/09-mwts-minutes.html#action09
     [48] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action10

   [DROPPED] ACTION: Dom to send feedback on the blog post [recorded in
   [49]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action11]

     [49] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action11

   [End of minutes]
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