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[minutes] Tuesday May 29 teleconf

From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 17:50:18 +0200
To: public-mwts <public-mwts@w3.org>
Message-Id: <1180453818.6202.20.camel@altostratustier>

Hi,

The minutes of our call today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-mwts-minutes.html
linked from
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/

and copied as text below.

Dom

[1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                MWI Test Suites Working Group teleconf

29 May 2007

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007May/0008.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-mwts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          dom, Jenise, dmitri, Carmelo, Wilhelm

   Chair
          Dom

   Scribe
          Carmelo

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Conformance Test suites
         2. [6]Community-based Test suite
         3. [7]Participation to Nov 2007 Tech Plenary in Boston?
         4. [8]Next meeting
     * [9]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

Conformance Test suites

   <dom> ACTION: Dom to look at implementing an id for test session
   [recorded in
   [10]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
   [PENDING]

     [10] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action05

   dom: CSS WG chair also expressed interest in having some kind of
   session management in the harness; but I still haven't had the time
   to work on it...

   <dom> ACTION: Allen to see from where the harness should be linked
   [recorded in
   [11]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action12]
   [PENDING]

     [11] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action12

   <dom> ACTION: Dom to check with SVG and CSS WG whether they want
   more visibility of their test suites through the harness [recorded
   in [12]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action13]
   [DONE]

     [12] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action13

   <dom> [13]Dom's message to the CSS WG and SVG WG chair

     [13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-mwts/2007May/0002.html

   Dom: CSS WG agreed to put a link on their testing page to link to
   our harness,

   This looks like good progress

   <dom> ACTION: Dom to look at integrating the WICD test suite into
   the harness [recorded in
   [14]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
   [DROPPED]

     [14] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action10

   Dom: the WICD test suite doesn't seem to be quite ready yet for
   inclusion in the harness;

   WICD is only at Last Call stage, more effort is isually put on
   testing during CR

   Dom: once CR status is reached perhabs we should look at this again
   and try to incorporate this on the test harness

   <dom> ACTION: Dom to check whether we're allowed to put the WCSS
   Test suite in the mobile test harness [recorded in
   [15]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
   [PENDING]

     [15] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06

   <dom> ACTION: Dom to explore using XHTML MP as part of the harness
   [recorded in
   [16]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
   [PENDING]

     [16] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09

   <dom> [17]Dom's message to OMA

     [17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-mwts/2007May/0001.html

   Dom: pinged back my OMA contact; hoping to get news from him this
   week.

   <dom> ACTION: Carmelo to rewrite Till's message on SVGT test suite
   [recorded in
   [18]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [PENDING]

     [18] http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-mwts-minutes.html#action04

   Carmelo: will send by end of this week

   <dom> [19]Dom's message on XmlHttpRequest test suite

     [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007May/0003.html

   Dom: there is a workshop organized by W3C in September in San
   Francisco bay area on mobile AJAX; was hoping we could contribute to
   the workshop by gathering results on how well XmlHttpRequest is
   supported on mobile devices through the test harness, but it doesn't
   look like the test suite is quite ready for inclusion in our system
   yet.

Community-based Test suite

   <dom> ACTION: Dom to look at creating submission framework [recorded
   in [20]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-mwts-minutes.html#action10]

     [20] http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-mwts-minutes.html#action10

   <dom> [21]Dom's message about draft submission framework

     [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007May/0007.html

   <dom> [22]Draft UI for test case submission

     [22] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/Open/submit

   Dom presents the submission interface

   carmelo: looks like a good start; will send comments later today

   wilhelm: are the metadata saved in a database?

   dom: they will, indeed

   wilhelm: good; interface looks good to me

   carmelo: what is the use of the "possible outcomes" interface?

   dom: in case of behavioral tests, the expected outputs may not be of
   the form pass vs fail, but could be implementation-dependent (e.g.
   for encoding detection, faulty markup fallback)
   probably would benefit from further explanations and examples in the
   submission guidelines document.

   Dimitri: Perhaps create a few tests to evaluate/test the interface

   Dom: Please send any comments you would have on the interface as
   soon as you can; in the meantime, I'll start implementing the
   backend code.

   <dom> ACTION: Wilhelm to submit example test cases for guidelines
   document [recorded in
   [23]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-mwts-minutes.html#action11]
   [PENDING]

     [23] http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-mwts-minutes.html#action11

   wilhelm: will send later today, as well as comments on submissions
   guidelines

Participation to Nov 2007 Tech Plenary in Boston?

   <dom> RESOLVED: we'll have a F2F meeting during the TP week in
   November

Next meeting

   Carmelo: I am available to chair this group on the 12

   and if required on the the 5th.

Summary of Action Items

   [PENDING] ACTION: Dom to look at creating submission framework
   [recorded in
   [24]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Dom to look at implementing an id for test session
   [recorded in
   [25]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action05]

     [24] http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-mwts-minutes.html#action10
     [25] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action05

   [PENDING] ACTION: Allen to see from where the harness should be
   linked [recorded in
   [26]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action12]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Carmelo to rewrite Till's message on SVGT test
   suite [recorded in
   [27]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Dom to check whether we're allowed to put the WCSS
   Test suite in the mobile test harness [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Dom to explore using XHTML MP as part of the
   harness [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Wilhelm to submit example test cases for
   guidelines document [recorded in
   [30]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-mwts-minutes.html#action11]

     [26] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action12
     [27] http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-mwts-minutes.html#action04
     [28] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06
     [29] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09
     [30] http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-mwts-minutes.html#action11

   [DONE] ACTION: Dom to check with SVG and CSS WG whether they want
   more visibility of their test suites through the harness [recorded
   in [31]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action13]

     [31] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-mwts-minutes.html#action13

   [DROPPED] ACTION: Dom to look at integrating the WICD test suite
   into the harness [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action10]

     [32] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action10

   [End of minutes]
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