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From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:51:30 +0100
To: public-mwts@w3.org
Message-Id: <1170175890.6228.60.camel@cumulustier>

Hi,

The minutes of our call today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html
linked from 
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/

and copied as text below; thanks Allen for scribing!

Dom

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          Mobile Web Test Suites Working Group teleconference

30 Jan 2007

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-mwts/2007Jan/0013.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Allen, Carmelo, dom, dmitri, Janice, Till

   Regrets
   Chair
          carmelo

   Scribe
          Allen

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]approval of the F2F meeting minutes
         2. [6]Investigations on framework for submissions-based test
            suites
         3. [7]Review of existing mobile web technologies test suites
         4. [8]next face to face meeting
     * [9]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

approval of the F2F meeting minutes

   dom: too ealy to do that, I need to refine them

   <dom> [10]Draft minutes of our last week F2F

     [10] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html

   dom: two possible deliverables for the group discussed in the F2F
   meeting
   ... existing tests
   ... Test submission system, tests similar to ACID tests
   ... need to find existing software solution for submission of tests

Investigations on framework for submissions-based test suites

   <dom> ACTION: [ONGOING] Carmelo to look if NIST has a test
   cases/results submission system [recorded in
   [11]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html#action01]

     [11] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html#action01

   carmelo: someone at NIST had developed something similar; will get
   more details today, need to get permission from supervisor

   Allen: no submission system in Sun and JCP

   <dom> ACTION: [DONE] Allen to check if there is any test case
   submission system/process as part of the JCP [recorded in
   [12]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

     [12] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html#action02

   carmelo: can use cvs as the interface
   ... will get more info this afternoon

Reviews of existing mobile web technologies test suites

   <dom> [13]QA Matrix

     [13] http://www.w3.org/QA/TheMatrix

   dom: everybody reviews set of test suite

   <dom> Technologies we need to look at: CSS Mobile Profile 1.0, DOM
   LEvel 1 (?), SVG Tiny, XHTML Basic, WICD Mobile

   carmelo: looks about right

   dom: review and gather as many data as possible
   ... each person takes one

   <dom> ACTION: dom to survey data on XHTML Basic Test suites
   [recorded in
   [14]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action03]

   dom: will take XHTML

   carmelo: will take DOM

   <scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to take DOM [recorded in
   [15]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

   <scribe> ACTION: Dmitri to take SVG [recorded in
   [16]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action05]

   <scribe> ACTION: Allen to take WICD [recorded in
   [17]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action06]

   <dom> ACTION: Till to take CSS Mobile [recorded in
   [18]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action07]

   <dom> data to collect: test suites licenses, public availability,
   conformance / interoperability, coverage / test assertions
   avaibility, mobile web relevance, test harness, automated or not

   <dom> and stability / status, maintenance process

   dom: should try to finish in one week
   ... if not, let people know
   ... at this moment, plain text in email is fine

   [OPEN] ACTION: All members to identify possible additional members
   either as invited experts or from member organizations.

   <dom> ACTION: [PENDING] Dom to look into test cases submissions
   systems [recorded in
   [19]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html#action03]

     [19] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html#action03

   <dom> ACTION: [PENDING] Dom to turn the list of work items into a
   roadmap with a schedule [recorded in
   [20]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html#action05]

     [20] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html#action05

   dom: Till, does Opera have any view on the idea of the open test
   submission system?

   Till: interesting idea.

   <dom> ACTION: Till to report on Opera's point of view on the open
   test suite framework [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action10]

   dom: will have a schedule by the end of next week
   ... next face to face meeeting?

next face to face meeting

   carmelo: May is a good time

   dom: two things - who is available, who can host
   ... typically one member host the meeting in his company
   ... with food and coffee
   ... try to figure out availability

   carmelo: any of the first three weeks in May

   <dom> ACTION: Dom to figure out his availabilities in May [recorded
   in [22]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action11]

   dom: probably takes two days
   ... Sun, Opera or NIST?

   <dom> ACTION: Carmelo to check if NIST can host a meeting in May
   [recorded in
   [23]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action12]

   <dom> ACTION: Till to check if Opera can host a meeting [recorded in
   [24]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action13]

   <scribe> ACTION: Allen to check with Sun to host a meeting in May
   [recorded in
   [25]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action14]

   dom: may use May 7 for the meeting if no body attend WWW meeting in
   Canada
   ... everybody takes turns to scribe
   ... next week will be carmelo
   ... need somebody to scribe after two weeks

   Allen: reference to IRC:
   [26]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm?co
   ntent-type=text/html#Quick_Start_Guide
   ... [27]http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent

     [26] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm?content-type=text/html#Quick_Start_Guide
     [27] http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Allen to check with Sun to host a meeting in May
   [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action14]
   [NEW] ACTION: Allen to take WICD [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
   [NEW] ACTION: Carmelo to check if NIST can host a meeting in May
   [recorded in
   [30]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action12]
   [NEW] ACTION: Carmelo to take DOM [recorded in
   [31]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dmitri to take SVG [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to figure out his availabilities in May [recorded
   in [33]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action11]
   [NEW] ACTION: dom to survey data on XHTML Basic Test suites
   [recorded in
   [34]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
   [NEW] ACTION: Till to check if Opera can host a meeting [recorded in
   [35]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action13]
   [NEW] ACTION: Till to report on Opera's point of view on the open
   test suite framework [recorded in
   [36]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
   [NEW] ACTION: Till to take CSS Mobile [recorded in
   [37]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html#action07]

   [PENDING] ACTION: Carmelo to look if NIST has a test cases/results
   submission system [recorded in
   [38]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Dom to look into test cases submissions systems
   [recorded in
   [39]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Dom to turn the list of work items into a roadmap
   with a schedule [recorded in
   [40]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html#action05]

   [DONE] ACTION: Allen to check if there is any test case submission
   system/process as part of the JCP [recorded in
   [41]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

   [End of minutes]
   
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