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[minutes] Tuesday Dec 18 teleconf

From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:34:17 +0100
To: public-mwts <public-mwts@w3.org>
Message-Id: <1197995657.8550.38.camel@altostratustier>

Hi,

The minutes of our teleconf today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html
linked from
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/

and copied as text below.

Our next call will be on January 8; happy end of year festivities to you
all!

Dom

                MWI Test Suites Working Group teleconf

18 Dec 2007

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Dec/0010.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Wilhelm, Carmelo, Dom, Jenise, dmitri

   Chair
          Dom

   Scribe
          dom

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]WCSS to CSS MP2.0 Test suite
         2. [6]NIST contribution on XHTML Forms
         3. [7]Dom's submitted test cases on CSS Media Types
         4. [8]SVG Tiny 1.2 Test suite coverage
         5. [9]Mobile Acid Test
         6. [10]WICD Mobile Test suite review
         7. [11]Packaging test suites
     * [12]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

WCSS to CSS MP2.0 Test suite

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to analyse the wcss modules: text, vEffects,
   vFormat [recorded in
   [13]http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [DONE]

     [13] http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-mwts-minutes.html#action06

   ->
   [14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Dec/0005.htm
   l Dom's analysis of WCSS modules text, vEffects and vFormat

     [14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Dec/0005.html

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to analyse the wcss modules: css2_ext
   [recorded in
   [15]http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
   [PENDING]

     [15] http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-mwts-minutes.html#action07

   [16]updated test cases for CSS MP 2.0 from Carmelo

     [16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Dec/0007.html

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to review the CSS MP 2.0 test cases submitted
   by NIST [recorded in
   [17]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action03]

   <scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to get corrected WCSS test cases to match
   the changes in CSS MP 2.0 [recorded in
   [18]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

NIST contribution on XHTML Forms

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to review the XHTML Forms test cases [recorded
   in [19]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/11-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
   [DONE]

     [19] http://www.w3.org/2007/12/11-mwts-minutes.html#action03

   [20]Dom's comments on XHTML Forms test cases

     [20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Dec/0012.html

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to review the XHTML Forms test cases
   [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/11-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [DONE]

     [21] http://www.w3.org/2007/12/11-mwts-minutes.html#action04

   [22]Wilhelm's comments on XHTML Forms test cases

     [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Dec/0016.html

   [23]updated XHTML Forms test cases from NIST

     [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Dec/0004.html

   <scribe> ACTION: Carmelo and Jenise to update the XHTML Forms test
   cases based on the group feedback [recorded in
   [24]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action07]

Dom's submitted test cases on CSS Media Types

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhem to review the CSS Media Types test cases
   [recorded in
   [25]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/11-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
   [PENDING]

     [25] http://www.w3.org/2007/12/11-mwts-minutes.html#action05

SVG Tiny 1.2 Test suite coverage

   <scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to map OMA test requirements 026 to 035
   back to SVG spec sections [recorded in
   [26]http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [DONE]

     [26] http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-mwts-minutes.html#action04

   -> [27]Carmelo's mapping of OMA ETR to SVG Spec

     [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Dec/0006.html

   Carmelo: there was a couple of requirements I couldn't map
   ... if anybody can find what they would be, I'm happy to get
   feedback on this

   <scribe> ACTION: Dmitri to map OMA test requirements 001 to 013 back
   to SVG spec sections [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
   [PENDING]

     [28] http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-mwts-minutes.html#action02

   Dmitri: will send right after the call

   Dom: how do we move forward with this?

   Carmelo: I can have a look at it

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to send Carmelo the data on the existing SVG
   coverage analysis [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action11]

   <scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to make a mapping between OMA ETR and SVG
   test suite coverage based on the collected data [recorded in
   [30]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action12]

Mobile Acid Test

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to lead the work on mobile acid test
   [recorded in
   [31]http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-mwts-minutes.html#action10] [DONE]

     [31] http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-mwts-minutes.html#action10

   -> [32]Wilhelm's initial analysis of mobile acid test options

     [32] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Dec/0011.html

   Wilhelm: [summarizes his email]
   ... proposes to test a lot of completely different stuff
   ... and presenting it in a very visible way whether you pass or fail
   ... either with a simple color scheme, or something more visual

   Dom: not sure if "contenteditable" is really useful in the context
   of a mobile web browser, where keyboard access is limited

   Wilhelm: I think it provides a vision of what a mobile web browser
   should do

   Dom: what about WML? More of a legacy, and probably hard to
   integrate with other technologies

   Carmelo: it's not a problem to set the bar too high, IMO

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to send feedback on Wilhelm's proposal for
   mobile acid test [recorded in
   [33]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action14]

   <scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to send feedback on Wilhelm's proposal for
   mobile acid test [recorded in
   [34]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15]

   <scribe> ACTION: Wilhlem to set up a demo of a first subset of these
   tests would work [recorded in
   [35]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16]

WICD Mobile Test suite review

   <scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to review the mobile wicd test suite to
   include in the matrix of reviews [recorded in
   [36]http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-mwts-minutes.html#action12]
   [PENDING]

     [36] http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-mwts-minutes.html#action12

   [37]Survey of existing mobile web conformance test suites

     [37] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/matrix

Packaging test suites

   Wilhelm: we should provide ZIP files of the tests we provide
   ... I want to integrate them in our testing system
   ... everything we modify and put online

   Dom: very good point indeed
   ... we just need to finalize them before we release them
   ... please do remind us when we get one of one test suite finalized

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Carmelo and Jenise to update the XHTML Forms test
   cases based on the group feedback [recorded in
   [38]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
   [NEW] ACTION: Carmelo to get corrected WCSS test cases to match the
   changes in CSS MP 2.0 [recorded in
   [39]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: Carmelo to make a mapping between OMA ETR and SVG test
   suite coverage based on the collected data [recorded in
   [40]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action12]
   [NEW] ACTION: Carmelo to send feedback on Wilhelm's proposal for
   mobile acid test [recorded in
   [41]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to review the CSS MP 2.0 test cases submitted by
   NIST [recorded in
   [42]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to send Carmelo the data on the existing SVG
   coverage analysis [recorded in
   [43]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action11]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to send feedback on Wilhelm's proposal for mobile
   acid test [recorded in
   [44]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action14]
   [NEW] ACTION: Wilhlem to set up a demo of a first subset of these
   tests would work [recorded in
   [45]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16]

   [PENDING] ACTION: Carmelo to review the mobile wicd test suite to
   include in the matrix of reviews [recorded in
   [46]http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-mwts-minutes.html#action12]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Dmitri to map OMA test requirements 001 to 013
   back to SVG spec sections [recorded in
   [47]http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Wilhelm to analyse the wcss modules: css2_ext
   [recorded in
   [48]http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Wilhem to review the CSS Media Types test cases
   [recorded in
   [49]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/11-mwts-minutes.html#action05]

     [46] http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-mwts-minutes.html#action12
     [47] http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-mwts-minutes.html#action02
     [48] http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-mwts-minutes.html#action07
     [49] http://www.w3.org/2007/12/11-mwts-minutes.html#action05

   [DONE] ACTION: Carmelo to map OMA test requirements 026 to 035 back
   to SVG spec sections [recorded in
   [50]http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
   [DONE] ACTION: Dom to analyse the wcss modules: text, vEffects,
   vFormat [recorded in
   [51]http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
   [DONE] ACTION: Dom to review the XHTML Forms test cases [recorded in
   [52]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/11-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
   [DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to lead the work on mobile acid test
   [recorded in
   [53]http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
   [DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to review the XHTML Forms test cases
   [recorded in
   [54]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/11-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

     [50] http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-mwts-minutes.html#action04
     [51] http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-mwts-minutes.html#action06
     [52] http://www.w3.org/2007/12/11-mwts-minutes.html#action03
     [53] http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-mwts-minutes.html#action10
     [54] http://www.w3.org/2007/12/11-mwts-minutes.html#action04

   [End of minutes]
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