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RE: date about web or jave -enabled vs non web or non java-enabled phones ?

From: Ashbrook, David, VF-Group <David.Ashbrook@vodafone.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:32:20 +0200
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To: "Stephane Boyera" <boyera@w3.org>, <public-mw4d@w3.org>

Hi Stephane, it's a good point... The second hand market in these areas
does tend to be very strong so phones will remain in use for a very long
time, however as there is also rapid penetration growth, new devices are
also being sold rapidly... You can see both points of view!

Its difficult to get concrete data on this form my (operator)
perspective due to the pre-pay nature of the customer and the fact that
manufacturers often direct to the customer in these circumstances. It
would be interesting to hear others thoughts on how this might pan out
and how data  could be obtained.



David Ashbrook 
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-----Original Message-----
From: public-mw4d-request@w3.org [mailto:public-mw4d-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Stephane Boyera
Sent: 16 October 2008 19:34
To: public-mw4d@w3.org
Subject: date about web or jave -enabled vs non web or non java-enabled
phones ?


i'm trying to find some data about the number of phones in region like
africa, latin america, south-east asia, china, india, ... which have
potential ways of connesting to the web. This includes web-browser, or
at least java-enabled phones to host product like opera mine.
While i found some data about growth of mobile web access from africa,
east europe, and other regions, i was not able to get some figures about
the percentage of phones which might potentially be used to connect to
the web.

I noticed that many people are taking strong positions (either stating
that all phones would be web enabled in 5 years, or saying that due to
the grey/second hand market, before seing web-enabled phones in remote
places it might take 20 years) but i can't find concrete evidences and
data for one or the other side. So this is a problem, and i believe also
this might affect somehow our work.

So if anybody has some data, or some clues about how we could get them,
this would be useful.

Stephane Boyera		stephane@w3.org
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