- From: Katrin Verclas <katrin@mobileactive.org>
- Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:02:35 -0500
- To: Arun Kumar <kkarun@in.ibm.com>
- Cc: Jeff Sonstein <jeffs@it.rit.edu>, public-mw4d@w3.org
- Message-Id: <52A81E29-F2C4-42D2-9FB4-1DB027548666@mobileactive.org>
Arun and all -- You might be aware of the MobileActive directory that lists both tools and projects that have deployed mobile tech around the world. Projects are here: http://mobileactive.org/directory/practitioner, vendors and tools are here. We are revamping the site and directory in a complete redesign by the end of the year and are now gathering all of the projects we have written about and know about to include as well as call for user-generated information re. projects and tools. It might make sense to work together here? Katrin On Nov 7, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Arun Kumar wrote: > > Thanks for bringing this up. I too felt that we ought to keep track > of the > concrete achievable goals of the group on which we should make > progress > going forward. > >> (Goal 1: Challenges to Identification) > >> - can we first agree on a list of ways that >> mobile is being used to deliver ICT-based services? > > Keeping the first part of Goal 1 listed above, how about > documenting a list > of different projects we are already aware of and that utilize > mobile to > deliver ICT based services. This effort would not only help us to > gather > the state-of-the-art of innovative solutions people have deployed > but also > hopefully point us to the emerging categories of mobile based ICT > services > as well as the gaps that exist (leading to the other parts of Goal 1). > > The list could be an active document to which we keep on adding more > project/solutions as we find them along with the lessons learnt > from each > of those. > > Does that sound like a reasonable step to take ? > > thanks and regards > Arun Kumar > > http://www.research.ibm.com/people/a/arun > World Wide Telecom Web : > http://domino.research.ibm.com/comm/research_people.nsf/pages/ > arun_kumar.WWTW.html > > > > > Jeff Sonstein > <jeffs@it.rit.edu >> To > Sent by: public-mw4d@w3.org > public-mw4d- > reque cc > st@w3.org > > Subject > getting work done [was Re: > 11/07/2008 06:38 http://www.w3.org/2008/02/ > MS4D_WS/p > PM apers/unicef-w3c- > presentation.html] > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 2008, at 6:02 AM, public-mw4d@w3.org wrote: > >> I've the feeling that we are somehow in a rathole. > > (jeffs puts on his flame-resistant suit) > > I find myself agreeing with Steph here... > and I fear never actually making any progress > if this Interest Group gets "stuck" here > > from the W3C Process Document: > > [ http://www.w3.org/2003/06/Process-20030618/groups.html ] > > "Working Groups typically produce deliverables (e.g., > Recommendation Track > technical reports, software, test suites, and reviews of the > deliverables of > other groups) > > The primary goal of an Interest Group is to bring together people > who wish to > evaluate potential Web technologies and policies. An Interest > Group is a forum > for the exchange of ideas. [...] Interest Groups do not create > W3C Recommendations." > > our group is *not* supposed to act like a "standards & practices" > producing Working Group... > we are here to evaluate potentials and exchange ideas and get a broad > discussion going > period > > arguments over whether a particular technology is or is not > part of the browsable Web > are somewhat like arguing over > the number of angels who can dance on the head of a pin... > they are not particularly useful to our chartered ends > > -- > > from the MW4D charter: > > [ http://www.w3.org/2007/12/MW4D/charter1.1.html ] > > - how are mobile platforms delivering ICT-based services? > - what are the strengths & weaknesses of the different ways > of delivering applications on mobile phones? > - what are the different type of challenges to developing & deploying > ICT-based services in rural & underprivileged populations? > - what are the challenges to capacity building, to stimulating > local content & app dev, and to empowering people? > > these are the 4 basic questions for this group to address first > and they do not include the definition of > what is and is-not "the browsable Web"... > common-sense everyday-person definitions will do just fine > for the purposes of this Interest Group > > I would suggest we stop the semi-religious arguments > about what is and is-not a part of the browsable Web etc > and focus on a step-by-step realization of the first of our 4 goals > > -- > > (Goal 1: Challenges to Identification) > > - can we first agree on a list of ways that > mobile is being used to deliver ICT-based services? > > - can we then use that to identify > general categories of service-delivery > and to elucidate their > current & future strengths & weaknesses? > > - can we then use those categories > along with current & projected uses > to identify the challenges to dev & deployment? > > - can we then use those categories & "ideal-case uses" to identify > the challenges to capacity-building > the challenges to local content & app dev > and the challenges to citizen empowerment? > > > this will lead us to a decently organized approach to > goal 2: the "Roadmap Definition" > but without that simple informational base > I fear we will never get there in any coherent fashion > > -- > > jeffs > > -- > Reporter: > "What do you think of Western Civilization?" > Gandhi: > "I think it would be a good idea!" > ============ > > Prof. Jeff Sonstein > > http://www.it.rit.edu/~jxs/ > http://chw.rit.edu/blog/ > http://www.it.rit.edu/~jxs/emailDisclaimer.html > > > > > > Katrin Verclas Co-Founder and Editor MobileActive.org katrin@mobileactive.org + 1 413 687 9877 skype: katrinskaya Read the latest about mobiles in social change work at http:// mobileactive.org
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