RE: MusicXML representation of "additional" staff

Hi Dennis,

I'm curious, what piece is it?

Best,
Paul


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [mailto:bathory@maltedmedia.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 8:41 AM
> To: Paul Lombardi
> Cc: public-music-notation-contrib@w3.org
> Subject: RE: MusicXML representation of "additional" staff
> 
> On Fri, April 22, 2016 4:50 pm, Paul Lombardi wrote:
> > Hello everyone!
> >
> > My Gardner Read, Kurt Stone, and Elaine Gould notation books all say that a
> > clef change should affect all notes in the stack of notes on a clef. I would
> > be curious to hear more about what Debussy intended in his example
> because it
> > doesn't make sense. I bet the note is Eb1. When I get home, I'll get out the
> > score and see if there are any other clues and listen to some recordings.
> >
> > Regarding the example Dennis attached, Elaine Gould discusses specific
> > instances when dashed lines following ottava symbols may deviate from the
> > horizontal. I don't think the composer's example qualifies. Also, from a
> > practical standpoint, there are ways to notate the same music so that it
> would
> > be much easier to read. Any musician playing that music would have to
> spend
> > time deciphering it, and probably wouldn't play what the composer
> intended
> > without asking him. It looks like the time signature is probably compound
> > quadruple. There are tenutos in some layers but not in the corresponding
> notes
> > in other layers. There are unnecessary courtesy accidentals, and courtesy
> > accidentals that should be required accidentals. The small clefs are not
> > aligned with the right lines on the staff. The dashed line collides with an
> > accidental. The six-octave leap in the left hand would be impossible to do in
> > time unless the tempo was really slow, but if the tempo was that slow then
> the
> > music should be notated differently. The notes on the fourth eighth of the
> > measure are not vertically aligned. It looks like the slur on top connects a
> > sixteenth note in one layer to a note ending a tie in another layer. If this
> > is written for piano, it should be written on three staffs.
> 
> I did mention that this is currently being set. None of the alignments are
> finished yet.
> 
> As for Gould, her work is highly conservative and often suspect because of
> that. Bartok wouldn't pass her prohibition on rhythmic beaming. So who ya
> gonna believe? Yeah, not Gould. :)
> 
> By the way, the renowned pianists who premiered and recorded this work
> from a
> pencil manuscript some 30 or so years ago had no trouble grasping what was
> intended.
> 
> As for how something should be notated, the composer is the final arbiter.
> 
> Dennis
>

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