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Re: issue-68 from an annotation representation point of view, with potential implications for annotatorsRef and standoff markup

From: Tadej Štajner <tadej.stajner@ijs.si>
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:56:18 +0100
Message-ID: <51079CC2.1060106@ijs.si>
To: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
CC: Phil Ritchie <philr@vistatec.ie>, Mārcis Pinnis <marcis.pinnis@Tilde.lv>, Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>, "public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org" <public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>, Artūrs Vasiļevskis <arturs.vasilevskis@Tilde.lv>
Hi, Felix, Phil,
maybe 'tanRefs' was misleading. the intention was to point to an 
its:textAnalysisAnnotations, element which could in turn contain contain 
several its:textAnalysisAnnotation elements that all describe the same 
fragment. Is this valid usage of the its:textAnalysisAnnotations, or was 
it only meant to be a container for the individual rules? I was looking 
at this example for inspiration:
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/examples/xml/EX-locQualityIssue-local-2.xml

Alternatively, having multiple values would also work equivalently, then 
we could point to individual textAnalysisAnnotation statements.
-- Tadej

On 29. 01. 2013 10:41, Felix Sasaki wrote:
> Thanks, Phil. Tadej, was the intention of its:tanRefs at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Jan/0212.html 
>
> to have several pointers, e.g. allow for
> its:tanRefs="tan1 tan2 tan3"
> or just one, that is only "tan1"?
>
> Best,
>
> Felx
>
>
> Am 29.01.13 10:34, schrieb Phil Ritchie:
>> All
>>
>> @Felix: "But while doing that a question on the LQI/Provenance
>> implementers: is it a feature that you point to just one external 
>> standoff
>> unit, or an oversight, and it could it be several ones?"
>>
>> My current thinking is that stand-off stores many annotations for one
>> segment. This is because if several segments are linked to one stand-off
>> block, then if one of those segments needs to have another unique issue
>> registered against it, you have to copy the stand-off, add the unique
>> annotation and change the reference id's so that the link is between the
>> segment with the additional annotation and the copied stand-off. 
>> Complex.
>>
>> Another argument for pointing to a single stand-off is that although the
>> "classification" attributes of the markup might be identical (e.g.
>> loc-quality-issue-type="style" loc-quality-issue-severity="75") each may
>> have a different loc-quality-issue-comment to highlight the specific 
>> nature
>> of the error.
>>
>> Hmm. The benefit of the id being on the segment/element and the idRefs
>> being on the stand-off really comes into its own if you want to have
>> multiple annotations across many data categories for the same
>> segment/element.
>>
>> <span id="loaded">blah</span>
>>
>> <its:prov ref="loaded"...
>> <its:locQualityIssues ref="loaded"...
>> <its:textAnalysis ref="loaded"
>> (on the train, I know this is not valid markup.)
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 Jan 2013, at 19:57, "Felix Sasaki" <fsasaki@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>>> But while doing that a question on the LQI/Provenance implementers: 
>>> is it
>> a feature that you point to just one external standoff unit, or an
>> oversight, and it could it be several ones?
>>
>>
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