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Re: mismatch of html translate and ITS translate

From: Karl Fritsche <karl.fritsche@cocomore.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:48:23 +0100
Message-ID: <51273EE7.3070001@cocomore.com>
CC: <public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>, www-international <www-international@w3.org>
Hi all,

On 22.02.2013 10:33, Felix Sasaki wrote:
> Hi Karl,
>
> one process thing: please keep the www-international list in the loop, 
> since the i18n guys will need to look into the issue too. One comment 
> below.
>
> Am 22.02.13 10:27, schrieb Karl Fritsche:
>> On 22.02.2013 10:16, Jirka Kosek wrote:
>>> On 22.2.2013 6:55, Felix Sasaki wrote:
>>>
>>>> What would your preference be for resolving this:
>>>> - asking HTML5 to change its semantics
>>> I think that HTML5 spec should be changed and attributes should be
>>> removed from translation. Or as a compromise only title and alt
>>> attributes should be considered as translateable.
>>>
>>>             Jirka
>>>
>> The Problem in HTML5 is, you don't have any option to allow 
>> translation of attributes.
>
> But where do you need this, except title and alt?
>
>> We can use rules, but this doesn't exists in HTML5. Thats why they 
>> using this behavior, I think.
>
> Actually implementations don't use this - I checked the online MT 
> translation systems that do HTML translation, and they don't translate 
> attributes.
>
>> And to say some attributes are considered to be translatable and 
>> others not, would be very confusing. Specially what are you doing 
>> with data-* attributes - are they are translatable or not? Thats why 
>> I think they considered everything as translatable and the 
>> translation software should handle this. 
>
> So you are saying we should disalign ITS XML "translate" versus HTML 
> "translate"? What will happen then for workflows like with 
> Linguaserve, who do XML processing of XHTML files as part of their 
> workflow chain?

No, we should definitely find a solution, which in the best case is the 
same for ITS and HTML. Only wanted to clarify, that maybe somebody want 
also translate his data-* attribute, but in HTML5 you can't specify, 
which attribute should be translated and which not.

Best,
Karl

>
> Best,
>
> Felix
>>
>>
>
>


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