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Re: Note on its:term [ISSUE-24]

From: Tadej Stajner <tadej.stajner@ijs.si>
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:03:41 +0200
Message-ID: <4FDF0B0D.1020000@ijs.si>
To: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
Hi,
I don't want to start a httpRange-14 war here, but this sounds a lot 
like the scenario of separating the term definition and its 
representation, as is the case done in semweb. For instance, when 
http://dbpedia.org/resource/Pizza redirects to 
http://dbpedia.org/page/Pizza or /image/Pizza, depending on what the 
user agent asks for?

Basically, this sort of recipe would keep the same ITS2.0 data 
categories and delegate the issue of resource representation negotiation 
to a protocol layer that is concerned about that.

-- Tadej


On 6/16/2012 9:10 AM, Felix Sasaki wrote:
> Hi Arle,
>
> this is now ISSUE-24, please use this identifier in your mails.
>
> ITS 1.0 has an existing solution (term identification and referring to 
> related definitions), and XLIFF markup can be mapped to it following 
> the approach described at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/REC-its-20070403/#associating-its-with-existing-markup
>
> This does not require a change to the "term" data category, see the 
> ITS 1.0 example below:
>
> <its:termRule selector="mrk[@mtype='term']" termInfoPointer="xyz"/>
>
> "selector" selects all "mrk" elements of type "term". 
> "termInfoPointer" points to existing information. That of course can 
> be embedded markup, so it fulfills the requirement your mention below.
>
> So one way to move forward would be not to change the terminology data 
> category at all, but create guidance on how to use it in combination 
> with XLIFF 1.2 or 2.0.
>
> Any thoughts, esp. from Arle and Yves (who has some experience in 
> using above pointers)?
>
> Felix
>
>
> 2012/6/14 Arle Lommel <arle.lommel@dfki.de <mailto:arle.lommel@dfki.de>>
>
>     Hello all,
>
>     We got a request today from Christian Lieske in the XLIFF Inline
>     Markup SC call to see if its:term could be expanded in its
>     applicability to allow for pointers to non-textual content. E.g.,
>     Christian said he would like to be able to point to a graphic or
>     sound file as a reference for a term. In addition, the XLIFF mrk
>     (type=term) allows for embedding definitions, something currently
>     not allowable with its:term. Making this change would help draw us
>     closer closer to what XLIFF allows and let us add some
>     sophistication to the terminology model.
>
>     Perhaps Christian can elaborate his ideas a bit, but I wanted to
>     get this on record for the update of term in ITS 2.0. I believe at
>     this point if this were to move forward, we'd need to look for
>     implementations that could add and use a definition attribute.
>
>     Best,
>
>     Arle
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Felix Sasaki
> DFKI / W3C Fellow
>
Received on Monday, 18 June 2012 11:04:19 UTC

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