Re: [LT-Web] Test Suite output

Hey Phil,

I will take a look into that for you.

Leroy


On 18 January 2013 11:02, Phil Ritchie <philr@vistatec.ie> wrote:

> Leroy, I noticed when re-running LQI earlier in the week that default
> "locQualityIssuedEnabled="yes"" in the output had also disappeared.
>
>
>
> On 18 Jan 2013, at 10:32, "Leroy Finn" <finnle@tcd.ie> wrote:
>
> Also I will give a look at updating the tests also based on Yves comments.
> I will let everyone know when I have the update done to get feedback.
>
> Leroy
>
>
> On 18 January 2013 10:28, Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie> wrote:
>
>> I ran the language information tests for HTML and I am getting the
>> incorrect output also. Thanks for catching this Marcis. I will have to
>> correct my parser for language information  and i better double check the
>> XML outputs also. I will post up the correct output by the end of the day.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Leroy
>>
>>
>> On 18 January 2013 09:56, Pablo Nieto Caride <pablo.nieto@linguaserve.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Felix,****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Yes I definitely thought about this issue when I was implementing the
>>> data category, but then I came to realize that since the value of “Global
>>> adding of information” is NO then the rules cannot add the lang
>>> attribute to the elements, then the inheritance is another matter, I
>>> thought that the reason why it isn’t shown on the output was because the
>>> lang is not ITS but a HTML5 attribute. Anyway according to this thread I
>>> assume I was wrong and I need to change the implementation, don’t I?****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Cheers,****
>>>
>>> Pablo.****
>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>** **
>>>
>>> Hi Pablo and Ankit,
>>>
>>> just FYI & in case you may have missed this thread - you as "language
>>> information" implementers may need to change some test files, see below.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Felix****
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- ****
>>>
>>> *Betreff: *
>>>
>>> RE: [LT-Web] Test Suite output****
>>>
>>> *Weitersenden-Datum: *
>>>
>>> Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:08:33 +0000****
>>>
>>> *Weitersenden-Von: *
>>>
>>> public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org****
>>>
>>> *Datum: *
>>>
>>> Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:07:54 -0700****
>>>
>>> *Von: *
>>>
>>> Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com> <ysavourel@enlaso.com>****
>>>
>>> *An: *
>>>
>>> 'Felix Sasaki' <fsasaki@w3.org> <fsasaki@w3.org>, 'Multilingual Web
>>> LT-TESTS Public' <public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org><public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> *Kopie (CC): *
>>>
>>> 'Mārcis Pinnis' <marcis.pinnis@Tilde.lv> <marcis.pinnis@Tilde.lv>,
>>> 'Pēteris Ņikiforovs' <peteris.nikiforovs@Tilde.lv><peteris.nikiforovs@Tilde.lv>,
>>> 'Andis Lagzdiņš' <andis.lagzdins@Tilde.lv> <andis.lagzdins@Tilde.lv>****
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> Hi Mārcis,****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> I’ve checked our code and we had a bug in our implementation: the
>>> handler for the local HTML’s lang was not defined.****
>>>
>>> So I’m now getting the three attached files for HTML.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> There may be still another problem in our code as we still get the same
>>> output for html1.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> I think that test needs to be redone because the way it is: we don’t
>>> know if the result is generated by the local lang or by the global rule.
>>> ****
>>>
>>> (and the global rules are a bit weird too: the first one serves no
>>> purpose)****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> I’ll try to find some time to look more into it tomorrow. Hopefully
>>> others can double/triple check the output.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> cheers,****
>>>
>>> -yves****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> *From:* Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org <fsasaki@w3.org>]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:49 AM
>>> *To:* Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public
>>> *Cc:* Mārcis Pinnis; Pēteris Ņikiforovs; Andis Lagzdiņš
>>> *Subject:* [LT-Web] Test Suite output****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Forwarded on behalf of Mārcis (there is a subscription issue for the
>>> tests list) and putting Mārcis and his colleagues in CC. Implementers,
>>> please have a look at Mārcis' issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Felix
>>>
>>> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- ****
>>>
>>> *Betreff: *****
>>>
>>> [Moderator Action] [LT-Web] Test Suite output****
>>>
>>> *Datum: *****
>>>
>>> Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:47:39 +0000****
>>>
>>> *Von: *****
>>>
>>> Mārcis Pinnis <marcis.pinnis@Tilde.lv> <marcis.pinnis@Tilde.lv>****
>>>
>>> *An: *****
>>>
>>> Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public LT-TESTS Public
>>> <public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org><public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> *Kopie (CC): *****
>>>
>>> Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> <fsasaki@w3.org>, Pēteris Ņikiforovs
>>> <peteris.nikiforovs@Tilde.lv> <peteris.nikiforovs@Tilde.lv>, Andis
>>> Lagzdiņš <andis.lagzdins@Tilde.lv> <andis.lagzdins@Tilde.lv>****
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> We (in Tilde) are working through the Test Suite and for Language
>>> Information we find the expected results not to represent what is said in
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#language-information and
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#datacategories-defaults-etc.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> The first question:****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> The input in HTML example 1 is as follows:****
>>>
>>> <!DOCTYPE html>****
>>>
>>> <html lang="en">****
>>>
>>>   <head>****
>>>
>>>    <meta charset=utf-8>****
>>>
>>>    <link href="languageinfo1htmlrules.xml" rel="its-rules"/>****
>>>
>>>    <title>EXAMPLE</title>****
>>>
>>>   </head>****
>>>
>>>   <body>****
>>>
>>>    <p>The motto of Québec is:****
>>>
>>>     <q>Je me souviens</q>****
>>>
>>>   .</p>****
>>>
>>>    <p>La devise du Québec est :****
>>>
>>>     <q lang="fr-CA">Je me souviens</q>****
>>>
>>>   .</p>****
>>>
>>>   </body>****
>>>
>>> </html>****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> The acompanying rules file defines the following:****
>>>
>>> <its:rules xmlns:its="http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its"<http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its>xmlns:h=
>>> "http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" <http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml>version="2.0">
>>> ****
>>>
>>> <its:langRule selector="/h:*" langPointer="@lang"/>****
>>>
>>> <its:langRule selector="//h:*" langPointer="@lang"/>****
>>>
>>> </its:rules>****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> The expected output is:****
>>>
>>> /html  lang="en"****
>>>
>>> /html/@lang   lang="en"****
>>>
>>> /html/head[1]****
>>>
>>> /html/head[1]/meta[1]****
>>>
>>> /html/head[1]/meta[1]/@charset****
>>>
>>> /html/head[1]/link[1]****
>>>
>>> /html/head[1]/link[1]/@href****
>>>
>>> /html/head[1]/link[1]/@rel****
>>>
>>> /html/head[1]/title[1]****
>>>
>>> /html/body[1]****
>>>
>>> /html/body[1]/p[1]****
>>>
>>> /html/body[1]/p[1]/q[1]****
>>>
>>> /html/body[1]/p[2]****
>>>
>>> /html/body[1]/p[2]/q[1]    lang="fr-CA"****
>>>
>>> /html/body[1]/p[2]/q[1]/@lang     lang="fr-CA"****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> However, our parser produces the following (and we tend to believe that
>>> this is correct!):****
>>>
>>> /html  lang="en"****
>>>
>>> /html/@lang   lang="en"****
>>>
>>> /html/head[1] lang="en"****
>>>
>>> /html/head[1]/meta[1]      lang="en"****
>>>
>>> /html/head[1]/meta[1]/@charset    lang="en"****
>>>
>>> /html/head[1]/link[1]      lang="en"****
>>>
>>> /html/head[1]/link[1]/@href lang="en"****
>>>
>>> /html/head[1]/link[1]/@rel lang="en"****
>>>
>>> /html/head[1]/title[1]     lang="en"****
>>>
>>> /html/body[1] lang="en"****
>>>
>>> /html/body[1]/p[1]   lang="en"****
>>>
>>> /html/body[1]/p[1]/q[1]    lang="en"****
>>>
>>> /html/body[1]/p[2]   lang="en"****
>>>
>>> /html/body[1]/p[2]/q[1]    lang="fr-CA"****
>>>
>>> /html/body[1]/p[2]/q[1]/@lang     lang="fr-CA"****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> I marked the difference in red.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> The language information data category specifies the following
>>> inheritance rules:****
>>>
>>> „Textual content of element, *including* attributes and child elements”*
>>> ***
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> This (as I understand it) means that everything within <html> is in
>>> English except the second <q> tag.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> This issue is in all three HTML language information examples in the
>>> Test Suite.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> A second question:****
>>>
>>> I find confusing the definition and parsing of the other two language
>>> information examples.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> I understand that language information is added at a global level,
>>> however, the ITS 2.0 reference says:****
>>>
>>> Locally users are able to use xml:lang (which is defined by XML), or
>>> lang in HTML, or an attribute specific to the format in question (as in Example
>>> 51 <http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#EX-lang-definition-1>).****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> After reading this sentence I have the understanding that the „lang”
>>> attribute is equally important for language information parsing than global
>>> rules (regardless of where they point).****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> That being said, is the expected output correct in the second and third
>>> examples (the first lang =”en” fragment was ignored in the expected output)?
>>> ****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Best regards,****
>>>
>>> Mārcis ;o)****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>
>>
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