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Re: Test suite output format

From: Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:51:42 +0100
Message-ID: <CAMYWBwu5Qkq3ZnDrWTFkwLRTc-pfhfMOmCa5nVxoyBOQUCwoKQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>, Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public <public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org>
Cc: Dave Lewis <dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie>, Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>, Dominic Jones <Dominic.Jones@cs.tcd.ie>
Here is a small sample of the tab delimited output for translate.

Leroy

On 5 September 2012 13:02, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> wrote:

> Great, thanks a lot, Leroy.
>
> Best,
>
> Felix
>
>
> 2012/9/5 Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie>
>
>> Hey Felix,
>>
>> I have the new text output ready to go I have basically put the output
>> through another XSLT page to make it produce text output as described
>> by Yves. I will add in details to the page about the textual output
>> when i am adding in the new output files to the webpage (while also
>> updating all the zip files).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Leroy
>>
>> On 4 September 2012 11:02, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > 2012/9/4 Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie>
>> >>
>> >> On 3 September 2012 22:09, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> wrote:
>> >> > Thanks for the nice feedback, Dave.
>> >> >
>> >> > One question I have is how to get feedback from the implementors, at
>> >> > least
>> >> > the people who have to do implementations in LT-Web. I assume that
>> >> > except
>> >> > Yves and I nobody has looked into this discussion. How can we assure
>> >> > that
>> >> > they will be able to deal with the test suite?
>> >> >
>> >> > Another question is the hosting and the generation of test files and
>> >> > output
>> >> > files. Would it be OK to host the test suite on the w3c site? For
>> this
>> >> > site
>> >> > there is some guarantee that it will be available in a few years. Can
>> >> > TCD
>> >> > guarentee that for
>> >> > http://phaedrus.scss.tcd.ie/, or should we move the tests?
>> >>
>> >> We can host it here for the time being but it maybe better to host it
>> >> on the W3C especially when its finished where it can be guaranteed to
>> >> stay up. So if you could organise hosting that would be great.
>> >>
>> >> > If yes, is there a machinery for generating the tests, or is both
>> input
>> >> > and output
>> >> > handwritten?
>> >>
>> >> The input test file is handwritten and gotten from the draft examples.
>> >> The output files on the other hand are generated from the test suite
>> >> code that you sent me previously it has been updated though to include
>> >> the ITS 2.0 data categories.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks for the info, Leroy. I think we don't have to put the machinery
>> for
>> > generating output files on the w3c server, but once the data categories
>> are
>> > stable we may want to put the test suite itself (including the new
>> output)
>> > to the w3c server. Do you think you could document the "new" (text
>> based)
>> > output format and have it generated by the September f2f? That would be
>> > sufficient.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Felix
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Leroy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Best,
>> >> >
>> >> > Felix
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 2012/9/3 Dave Lewis <dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Felix,
>> >> >> that's great, as we also need Leroy to help implement some of those
>> >> >> multi-data category roundtrip scenarios I mentioned earlier over the
>> >> >> next
>> >> >> few weeks.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We really appreciate all you help in checking the test suite as it
>> >> >> develops.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> cheers,
>> >> >> Dave
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 03/09/2012 13:57, Felix Sasaki wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks, Leroy. No need to hurry, what we have now is sufficient to
>> >> >> discuss
>> >> >> the test suite format w3c internally.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Felix
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2012/9/3 Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Hey Yves,Felix,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks for your examples about this tab-delimited output.  This
>> will
>> >> >>> take
>> >> >>> a few days to update the actually test suite and then to run all
>> the
>> >> >>> test
>> >> >>> files so i don't think it is possible to get this all done by
>> >> >>> tomorrow.  But
>> >> >>> i can start working on it today and we could possibly aim for some
>> >> >>> stage
>> >> >>> next week to publish this output. But i will add in the output
>> >> >>> description
>> >> >>> on the ITS test suite page today based on this tab delimited
>> output.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks,
>> >> >>> Leroy
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 1 September 2012 13:59, Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Hi Felix, all,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> > One question: for some data categories we would have a
>> >> >>>> > lot of values for one node, e.g. loc quality issue in the
>> >> >>>> > standoff version. How would the output look like
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Maybe simply the list of the expected values, in a pre-defined
>> order,
>> >> >>>> with an empty spot if the value is not present? See attached
>> example.
>> >> >>>> (I
>> >> >>>> have not verified the actual results, but the format should
>> >> >>>> illustrate the
>> >> >>>> idea)
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> > Also, some data categories have XML fragments (elements with
>> >> >>>> > potentially attributes and (mixed) content inside). How to
>> >> >>>> > represent these, e.g. what to do about whitespace stripping
>> >> >>>> > for the XML fragments? I have no preference / idea, just asking.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> We should probably escape the line breaks to "\n" (and any tab to
>> >> >>>> "\t")
>> >> >>>> and escape any XML constructs. For example if a localization note
>> is:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> <elem>text  with<tag/>
>> >> >>>> And line-breaks</elem>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> We would output:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> its:locNote="text  with&lt;tag/>\nAnd line-breaks"
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> cheers,
>> >> >>>> -yves
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Felix Sasaki
>> >> >> DFKI / W3C Fellow
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Felix Sasaki
>> >> > DFKI / W3C Fellow
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Felix Sasaki
>> > DFKI / W3C Fellow
>> >
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> --
> Felix Sasaki
> DFKI / W3C Fellow
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