Re: Test Suit Specs - Pointers and RefPointers

Hi Leroy,

2012/11/7 Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie>

> That is a good point Felix as we want to see the output as it is as after
> all these conformance tests. I haven't made any changes as of yet so would
> this mean that the output stays the same apart from the changes
> we discussed in Lyon???



Yes, that would be my suggestion. Of course we can continue discussing this
here, but at the moment I don't see a consensus for changing this, with at
least me opposing.

Best,

Felix


>
> Thanks,
> Leroy
>
>
> On 7 November 2012 10:43, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Leroy, all,
>>
>> I disagree with "normalizing" the output of "pointer" or "ref" (standoff)
>> attributes. With the nested attribute choices like
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#lqissue-implementation
>> keeping the origin of the information is quite important to be able to
>> see constraints.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Felix
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/7 Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie>
>>
>>> Fredrik,
>>>
>>> I agree with that this will make thing simpler but we need consensus on
>>> this from the group. This will cause some major changes in the update so if
>>> people agree I will post results like discussed in your e-mail. Also as i
>>> have discussed in a previous email i haven't re-run output in a while and
>>> meta has only been added recently to most files so except it to appear in
>>> future output. I am in the middle of updating the test suite parser at the
>>> moment adding in its:param parsing, removing of its: and adding of
>>> alphabetic ordering as discussed in the meeting. I will start working on
>>> the pointer output but it would be nice to hear some feedback on it from
>>> others in the group as well??????
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Leroy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 November 2012 08:55, Pablo Nieto Caride <
>>> pablo.nieto@linguaserve.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree with Fredrik, the simpler the better.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> I also think that maybe we should coordinate to commit changes to the
>>>> files.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> By the way Leroy my github user is pnietoca.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,****
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>>>> *De:* Fredrik Liden [mailto:fliden@enlaso.com]
>>>> *Enviado el:* miércoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 8:26
>>>> *Para:* Leroy Finn; Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public
>>>> *Asunto:* Test Suit Specs - Pointers and RefPointers****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Hi Leroy,****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> We talked a bit about the test output for pointers last Friday. Sorry
>>>> about the delay sending the example to the list.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> The examples from the test suite:****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> *locnote2htmloutput.txt*
>>>>
>>>> /html/body[1]/section[2]/span[1]
>>>> locNoteType="description"         *locNotePointer="A division by 0 was
>>>> going to be computed."*
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> In the cases of pointers maybe we can just resolve the pointer and show
>>>> the value as plain locNote. We don’t care to much that it’s from a pointer,
>>>> just that the value is correct.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> /html/body[1]/section[2]/span[1]           *locNote="A division by 0
>>>> was going to be computed."*  locNoteType="description"****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> *Locnote4htmloutput.txt*
>>>>
>>>> /html/body[1]/p[1]/span[1]       locNoteType="description"         *locNoteRefPointer=""
>>>> title="Comments.html#FileNotFound"*
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> *locnote4xmloutput.txt*
>>>>
>>>> /dataFile/body[1]/string[1]path=/data[1]
>>>> locNoteType="description"         *locNoteRefPointer=""
>>>> noteFile="Comments.html#FileNotFound"*****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> [Fyi, In the cases of refPointers the html and xml examples shows
>>>> different format title vs. noteFile]****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we can follow the same logic of the pointers in the example
>>>> above and resolve them and not show the title/noteFile so instead something
>>>> simpler like:****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> /html/body[1]/p[1]/span[1]       *
>>>> locNoteRef="Comments.html#FileNotFound"*
>>>> locNoteType="description"****
>>>>
>>>> and****
>>>>
>>>> /dataFile/body[1]/string[1]/data[1]        *
>>>> locNoteRef="Comments.html#FileNotFound"* locNoteType="description" ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> or****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> /html/body[1]/p[1]/span[1]       *
>>>> locNote="REF:Comments.html#FileNotFound"*
>>>> locNoteType="description"****
>>>>
>>>> and****
>>>>
>>>> /dataFile/body[1]/string[1]/data[1]        *
>>>> locNote="REF:Comments.html#FileNotFound"*
>>>> locNoteType="description" ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> On a side note, does it make sense for implementers to update the
>>>> testresult files on GitHub at will or do you prefer us to wait until after
>>>> Dec 4th. Just as a random example *\locale1htmloutput.txt *I think
>>>> it’s missing the following two lines (unless we’re ignoring meta):****
>>>>
>>>> * *
>>>>
>>>> /html/head[1]/meta[1]                ****
>>>>
>>>> /html/head[1]/meta[1]/@charset****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> I’m asking because I know you’re working on the files so I don’t want
>>>> to cause any inconvenience by introducing unexpected changes if you’re in
>>>> the middle of something. Perhaps you prefer us to report any findings on a
>>>> file per file basis to approve the change first? ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>
>>>> Fredrik****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Felix Sasaki
>> DFKI / W3C Fellow
>>
>>
>


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Felix Sasaki
DFKI / W3C Fellow