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Re: MLWLT-issue-88 (Re: Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-211: Quote element in HTML)

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:45:46 +0100
Message-ID: <51CB28CA.5000208@w3.org>
To: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
CC: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>, public-multilingualweb-lt-comments@w3.org, www International <www-international@w3.org>
Looks good. I'm satisfied with this.

RI


On 21/03/2013 16:07, Felix Sasaki wrote:
> Ah, ok, thanks - done.
>
> Best,
>
> Felix
>
> Am 21.03.13 16:00, schrieb Richard Ishida:
>> All I'm proposing is to change to
>>
>>  <p>In Arabic, the title <q dir=rtl lang=ar>نشاط التدويل، W3C</q>
>>     means "Internationalization Activity, W3C".</p>
>>
>> I don't think that this invalidates the example.
>>
>> RI
>>
>>
>> On 21/03/2013 14:58, Felix Sasaki wrote:
>>> Am 21.03.13 15:53, schrieb Richard Ishida:
>>>> Hmm. Ok. I think you could probably argue use of q for the markup with
>>>> the dir attribute in it, but I think that the text
>>>> "Internationalization Activity, W3C" should probably just have quotes
>>>> around it, since it's not quoting anything.
>>>
>>> The purpose of the example is to demonstrate the usage of "dir" in
>>> HTML5. What would be a good text for that? e.g. how could we replace
>>>
>>> <p>In Arabic, the title <q dir=rtl lang=ar>نشاط التدويل، W3C</q>
>>>        means <q>Internationalization Activity, W3C</q>.</p>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Felix
>>>
>>>>
>>>> (See the HTML5 spec "The q element must not be used in place of
>>>> quotation marks that do not represent quotes; for example, it is
>>>> inappropriate to use the q element for marking up sarcastic
>>>> statements.")
>>>>
>>>> RI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 21/03/2013 09:02, Felix Sasaki wrote:
>>>>> Hi Richard, Björn, all,
>>>>>
>>>>> the example 48 now says "q", see
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#EX-dir-html5-local-1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume that you are OK with this, let us know otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Felix
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 14.02.13 15:43, schrieb Felix Sasaki:
>>>>>> Hi Richard, all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> coming back to this: do you want us to change this to "q" or to
>>>>>> "cite"? Both fine, just trying to move the issue forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Felix
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 16.01.13 20:51, schrieb Richard Ishida:
>>>>>>> Apologies. I'm referring to Example 48.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RI
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 16/01/2013 19:46, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
>>>>>>>> * Richard Ishida wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Example 48: The Directionality data category expressed locally in
>>>>>>>>> HTML
>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-its20-20121206/#directionality-implementation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is no quote element in HTML5. I think you mean cite.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More likely 'q' or 'blockquote'. It would help if you would
>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>> quote the text you are commenting on, the section number is
>>>>>>>> nice, but
>>>>>>>> people still have to search and guess what you might be
>>>>>>>> referring to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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