- From: Uche Ogbuji <uche@ogbuji.net>
- Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:43:06 -0600
- To: public-microxml@w3.org
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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Mike Sokolov <sokolov@falutin.net> wrote: > ** > On 09/12/2012 10:45 AM, Uche Ogbuji wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Mike Sokolov <sokolov@falutin.net> wrote: > >> On 09/12/2012 09:49 AM, Uche Ogbuji wrote: >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Mike Sokolov <sokolov@falutin.net>wrote: >> >>> On 09/12/2012 09:33 AM, Uche Ogbuji wrote: >>> >>>> I think this is the way almost every implementor has interpreted it as >>>> well. Some, such as libxml will take advantage of the "in a normal way" >>>> clause to at least try to show the user any further fatal errors beyond the >>>> first, to make fix-up a bit less painful, but yeah that hardly counts as >>>> liberal acceptance, and anyway most parsers do stop dead at the first fatal >>>> error. >>>> >>>> >>>> Not completely - MarkLogic for example, provides "fixup" capabilities >>> in its parser that include undeclared ISO xml entity handling, and I think >>> will even fix well-formedness problems a-la tidy. >> >> >> Err, that is not an XML parser, then, any more than Tidy is, or >> html5lib, though both can parse XML-like thingies. >> >> Isn't your argument circular? "No parser implements fixup, because >> one did, it wouldn't be a parser" >> > > Err no. That's not remotely what I said. I think I've been pretty > clear in what I've said, which you quoted above. > > I said "MarkLogic provides fixup capabilities" > This is getting tedious. No, you said more than that, as can be easily read above. In particular, you said: "...include undeclared ISO xml entity handling, and I think will even fix well-formedness problems a-la tidy." > You said "that is not an XML parser, then", which I read as "Anything that > provides fixup capabilities is (ipso facto) not an XML parser". > "fixup capabilities" is not a precise enough term for me to say anything of the sort, so you are putting words into my mouth. If any software continues normally after a well-formedness error, or any fatal error, then it does not conform to the XML spec, as James so clearly quoted from the spec, which means by convention that it is not an XML parser. And with that I'm leaving off this subthread. You can refer to the XML spec itself for further details. -- Uche Ogbuji http://uche.ogbuji.net Founding Partner, Zepheira http://zepheira.com http://wearekin.org http://www.thenervousbreakdown.com/author/uogbuji/ http://copia.ogbuji.net http://www.linkedin.com/in/ucheogbuji http://twitter.com/uogbuji
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