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Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 24 November, Telecon 1000 UTC

From: Erik Mannens <erik.mannens@ugent.be>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:07:48 +0100
Cc: Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
Message-Id: <5207EFBD-09DB-4532-9CCD-5A8F13195F7C@ugent.be>
To: RaphaŽl Troncy <raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr>
Dear all,

late regrets (very sorry) ... have to attend meeting instead of my boss ... my action will be done by this evening though. 

Sincere greetings,

Erik

On 23 Nov 2010, at 23:49, RaphaŽl Troncy wrote:

Dear Media Fragmenters,

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=24&month=11&year=2010&hour=10&min=00&sec=0&p1=0Best regards.

 Erik & RaphaŽl

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AGENDA Teleconference
W3C Media Fragments Working Group telephone conference 2010-11-24
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Wednesday, 24 November *10:00-11:00 UTC*
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http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=17&month=11&year=2010&hour=10&min=00&sec=0&p1=0Best regards.

24 November 2010, 1000 UTC
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Chair: Erik, Raphael
ScribeList: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/ScribeList
Scribe: Conrad, Michael, Jack
Regrets: none

Please note that Media Fragments WG telecons are for attendance by
members and invited experts only.

1. ADMIN:
* Roll call
* PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the last week telecon: http://www.w3.org/2010/11/17-mediafrag-minutes.html
* ACTION-183: Raphael to send review reminders to all relevant groups

2. MEDIA FRAGMENT SPECIFICATION:
* ACTION-191: Yves to update the production rules of the time dimension with the npt format for making the hours optional
* ACTION-192: Davy  to update the specification to state what the processing should do when media fragments request (time dimension) does not match exactly how the media item has been encoded
* ACTION-193: Erik to make a schema for the server redirect recipe 	
* ACTION-194: RaphaŽl to add an intro paragraph in the section 5 to explain which recipes is useful for which dimension
* ACTION-197: RaphaŽl to also add in the intro of Section 5 a paragraph explaining the optimistic processing of fragments (using ranges in seconds)
* ACTION-195: Davy to add a paragraph in the section 7.1 to specify that video, audio, img or any href is all treated similarly (range request issued when facing a media fragment)
* ACTION-198: RaphaŽl to edit section 7.1 for taking into account the cropping resolution
* ISSUE-19 [Philippe]: Parsing must be defined normatively in the MF spec itself
** Philippe's proposal: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Nov/0008.html and http://people.opera.com/philipj/2010/11/04/media-fragments-spec/overview.html
* ACTION-173: Yves to produce the code that will check the grammar of both the URI syntax and the Headers syntax

3. LC COMMENTS:
* Chris Double: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Jun/0099.html
* Media Annotations WG: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Oct/0000.html
* ACTION-196: RaphaŽl to address comments from the Media Annotations WG and draft a reply

4. ADDRESSING, RENDERING SPATIAL FRAGMENTS:
* Image sprite in HTML5: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010May/0061.html
** Specify how to render Media Fragments in UA? Write a reply to HTML5?
* Use Case from Europeana:
** Robert Sanderson: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Jul/0010.html
** Bernhard Haslhofer: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Sep/0000.html
** Add this use case in the UC & Requirements document?
* Solution:
** An extra parameter in the Media Fragment URI?
** A new attribute in the HTML5 media element?

4. Use Cases and Requirements:
* From Ericsson (media fragment URI for video chat): https://labs.ericsson.com/developer-community/blog/beyond-html5-conversational-voice-and-video-implemented-webkit-gtk
* From Google: SemWebVid?
* From HTTP Streaming?

5. MEDIA FRAGMENTS IN RTSP:
* ISSUE-18 [Raphael]: RTSP processing of Media Fragments URI
** See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Jun/0065.html
** Include http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UA_Server_RTSP_Communication in the spec?

6. TEST CASES:
* Corrib test tool: http://ld2sd.deri.org/corrib/
* ACTION-146: Jack to identify and add in corrib any missing test cases for temporal fragments
** See also: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010May/0048.html
** Suggestion of nasty test cases by Philip:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Dec/0015.html
* ACTION-148: Michael to add a copy TC functionality in corrib
* ACTION-149: Michael to come up with a fix for overview vs. edit single TC in corrib
* ACTION-167: Erik to find license free movies for the automatic test suite ... starting with Elephant Dreams and the creative commons
* ACTION-168: Davy to investigate how the automatic test suite could also be done for evaluating the UA behavior
* ISSUE-9 [Michael]: Should we have the media type inside the Test Cases?
* ISSUE-10 [Michael]: Media Fragments Test Case Maintenance

7. OPEN ISSUES
* ISSUE-13 [Raphael]: Write a IETF draft for proposing how to register the fragment scheme for all media types
* ISSUE-17 [Yves]: Media Fragment track names and IRIs
** See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Jun/0056.html

8. AOB

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RaphaŽl Troncy
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