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Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 3 February, Telecon 1000 UTC

From: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 09:01:05 +0000
To: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
CC: <raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr>, Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>, Erik Mannens <erik.mannens@ugent.be>
Message-ID: <C78EEBD1.C871%michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
Silvia,

> Did you get anywhere with it?

Not yet. An unexpected additional task came up that eats up most of my time.
Sorry, but I can't change this :(

> I think the test case issues are starting to become really urgent, so
> we should have a dedicated session about that.

Agree.

> Will you be available next week?

Yes.

Cheers,
      Michael

-- 
Dr. Michael Hausenblas
LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
Ireland, Europe
Tel. +353 91 495730
http://linkeddata.deri.ie/
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> From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 19:39:11 +1100
> To: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
> Cc: <raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr>, Media Fragment
> <public-media-fragment@w3.org>, Erik Mannens <erik.mannens@ugent.be>
> Subject: Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 3 February, Telecon 1000
> UTC
> 
> Michael,
> 
> you promised to work on test cases by this week. Did you get anywhere with it?
> 
> I think the test case issues are starting to become really urgent, so
> we should have a dedicated session about that. Will you be available
> next week?
> 
> Regards,
> Silvia.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Michael Hausenblas
> <michael.hausenblas@deri.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Regrets, very sorry. Got visitors today all day. All my actions continue.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> † † †Michael
>> 
>> --
>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>> Ireland, Europe
>> Tel. +353 91 495730
>> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/
>> http://sw-app.org/about.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: RaphaŽl Troncy <raphael.troncy@cwi.nl>
>>> Organization: CWI
>>> Reply-To: <raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr>
>>> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:39:28 +0100
>>> To: Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
>>> Cc: Erik Mannens <erik.mannens@ugent.be>
>>> Subject: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 3 February, Telecon 1000 UTC
>>> Resent-From: Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
>>> Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:40:32 +0000
>>> 
>>> Dear Media Fragmenters,
>>> 
>>> Please, find below the agenda for this week telecon
>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=03&month=02&year=20
>>> 10
>>> &hour=10&min=00&sec=0&p1=0
>>> Actions opened:
>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/open
>>> Regrets from my side, I'm in a PhD defense.
>>> Best regards.
>>> 
>>> Erik & RaphaŽl
>>> 
>>> ------------
>>> 
>>> AGENDA Teleconference
>>> W3C Media Fragments Working Group telephone conference 2010-02-03
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Wednesday, 03 February *10:00-11:00 UTC*
>>> Local time:
>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=03&month=02&year=20
>>> 10
>>> &hour=10&min=00&sec=0&p1=0
>>> 
>>> 03 February 2010, 1000 UTC
>>> † † † † † † † †0200 (West US)
>>> † † † † † † † †1000 (Galway)
>>> † † † † † † † †1100 (Amsterdam, Sophia-Antipolis, Pretoria)
>>> † † † † † † † †1900 (Tokyo)
>>> † † † † † † † †2100 (Sydney)
>>> Bridge US: +1-617-761-6200 (Zakim)
>>> Bridge FR: +33.4.89.06.34.99
>>> Bridge UK: +44.117.370.6152
>>> Conference code : 3724# (spells "FRAG")
>>> Duration : 60 minutes
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> IRC channel † † † † †: #mediafrag on irc.w3.org:6665
>>> W3C IRC Web Client † : http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc
>>> Other clients are listed at http://www.w3.org/Project/IRC/#Client
>>> Zakim information † †: http://www.w3.org/2002/01/UsingZakim
>>> Zakim bridge monitor : http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/Zakim.html
>>> Zakim IRC bot † † † †: http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Chair: Erik
>>> ScribeList: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/ScribeList
>>> Scribe: Guillaume (On Deck: Conrad, Silvia)
>>> Regrets: Raphael
>>> 
>>> Please note that Media Fragments WG telecons are for attendance by
>>> members and invited experts only.
>>> 
>>> 1. ADMIN:
>>> * Roll call
>>> * PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 27 January 2009 telecon:
>>> http://www.w3.org/2010/01/27-mediafrag-minutes.html
>>> * Charter Extension:
>>> ** ACTION-127: Thierry/Yves to look for the charter extension
>>> * ACTION-92: Erik and Raphael to coordinate the writing of papers
>>> ** Target is MTAP SI on Semantic Multimedia,
>>> http://www.samt2009.org/sites/default/files/mtap_cfp_flyer_v1.pdf, Erik
>>> will circulate a draft version soon.
>>> 
>>> 2. F2F Meeting:
>>> * Draft Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/FithF2FAgenda
>>> ** Erik: Venue details
>>> ** Thierry: Zakim booked
>>> 
>>> 3. SPECIFICATION:
>>> 
>>> * ACTION: Raphael to fix the weird character in the spec document
>>> CLOSED:
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Jan/0102.html
>>> 
>>> 3.1 Media Fragment URI syntax: (Yves)
>>> * Bug in the npt specification:
>>> Philip:
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Nov/0023.html
>>> Dom:
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Jan/0093.html
>>> * ACTION-126: Yves to follow up on error in ABFN for npt
>>> * ACTION-132: Philip to send to the mailing list a description of a new
>>> issue to be discussed (dealing with decimal for specifying time?)
>>> * Approval of Philip changes: switch to EBNF syntax
>>> 
>>> 3.2 Protocol for URI fragment Resolution in HTTP:
>>> * ACTION: Raphael to ask on the mailing list if anybody has any problem
>>> with the changes proposed by Philip
>>> * ACTION-123: Yves to come up with ABNF for header syntax
>>> * ACTION-133: Erik to try to generate some time diagram for the protocol
>>> description in the section 5.2.1.x
>>> * Review of the complete Section 5.2.1 for group approval
>>> * Question of MF URI validity by Philip:
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Nov/0023.html
>>> * Suggestion of nasty test cases by Philip:
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Dec/0015.html
>>> 
>>> 3.3 Rendering of Media Fragments URI in UA:
>>> * ACTION-130: Silvia to draft a new subsection in the Section 5
>>> regarding the rendering in the UI of media fragments, at least for the
>>> temporal dimension
>>> * Davy: thoughts about other dimensions (spatial, track)
>>> 
>>> 3.4 Discovery of 'Track' and 'Named' fragments:
>>> * ISSUE-4 [Silvia]: Should we pre-define some track names?
>>> * Davy's strawman implementation using ROE:
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Nov/0014.html
>>> * Silvia's blog post:
>>> http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/11/25/manifests-exposing-structure-of-a-comp
>>> os
>>> ite-media-resource/
>>> 
>>> * Jack's proposal to write up that we should distinguish the mechanism
>>> (ROE, MPEG-21) vs the semantics
>>> 
>>> 3.5 Handling of 'Track' and 'ID':
>>> Conrad's proposal (Fragment header):
>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Server-parsed_Fragments
>>> 
>>> 4. ISSUES
>>> 
>>> 4.1 Active:
>>> * ACTION-131: Davy to write down a new ISSUE in the tracker regarding
>>> the problem raised by werner (see also raphael's summary)
>>> 
>>> 4.2 Non-Active:
>>> * ISSUE-5 [Jack]: Handling spatial cropping requires information at
>>> client-side
>>> * ISSUE-6 [Jack]: Temporal clips that require transcoding
>>> * ISSUE-7 [Michael]: User Agent Media Fragment Resolution and Processing
>>> * ISSUE-9 [Michael]: Should we have the media type inside the Test Cases?
>>> * ISSUE-12 [Raphael]: What's the relationship between Images (CSS)
>>> Sprites and the spatial dimension of the Media Fragments URI scheme?
>>> * ISSUE-13 [Raphael]: Write a IETF draft for proposing how to register
>>> the fragment scheme for all media types
>>> 
>>> 5. TEST CASES: (Michael)
>>> * Corrib test tool: http://ld2sd.deri.org/corrib/ * ACTION-108: Michael
>>> to add the missing test cases in corrib
>>> * ACTION-115: Michael to come up with categorization of test cases wrt
>>> empty, undefined, etc
>>> * ACTION-118: Michael to come up with individual 'normal' test cases (+/-20)
>>> * ACTION-119: Yves to request admins to set up a cvs notifications
>>> mailing list and notifications
>>> * ACTION-129: Michael to move the editorial note
>>> 
http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-overview-error>>>
s
>>> to the TC (wiki)
>>> 
>>> 6. IMPLEMENTATION:
>>> * ACTION-34: Jack to look at python-url library to see whether he could
>>> implement the logic on client side
>>> * ACTION-35: Raphael to look at curl and/or wget to see whether the logic
>>> could be implemented on client side
>>> * ACTION-70: Jack to commit in CVS (code directory) his python code
>>> doing the parsing on client side of the media fragment
>>> * ACTION-71: Michael to investigate whether he could have an
>>> implementation in Javascript that does the client-side media fragments
>>> parsing
>>> 
>>> 7. AOB
>>> 
>>> --
>>> RaphaŽl Troncy
>>> EURECOM, Multimedia Communications Department
>>> 2229, route des CrÍtes, 06560 Sophia Antipolis, France.
>>> e-mail: raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr & raphael.troncy@gmail.com
>>> Tel: +33 (0)4 - 9300 8242
>>> Fax: +33 (0)4 - 9000 8200
>>> Web: http://www.eurecom.fr/~troncy/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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