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Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 3 February, Telecon 1000 UTC

From: RaphaŽl Troncy <raphael.troncy@cwi.nl>
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:39:28 +0100
Message-ID: <4B692830.8070205@cwi.nl>
To: Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
CC: Erik Mannens <erik.mannens@ugent.be>
Dear Media Fragmenters,

Please, find below the agenda for this week telecon 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=03&month=02&year=2010&hour=10&min=00&sec=0&p1=0
Actions opened: 
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/open
Regrets from my side, I'm in a PhD defense.
Best regards.

Erik & RaphaŽl

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AGENDA Teleconference
W3C Media Fragments Working Group telephone conference 2010-02-03
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Wednesday, 03 February *10:00-11:00 UTC*
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03 February 2010, 1000 UTC
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Chair: Erik
ScribeList: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/ScribeList
Scribe: Guillaume (On Deck: Conrad, Silvia)
Regrets: Raphael

Please note that Media Fragments WG telecons are for attendance by
members and invited experts only.

1. ADMIN:
* Roll call
* PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 27 January 2009 telecon:
http://www.w3.org/2010/01/27-mediafrag-minutes.html
* Charter Extension:
** ACTION-127: Thierry/Yves to look for the charter extension
* ACTION-92: Erik and Raphael to coordinate the writing of papers
** Target is MTAP SI on Semantic Multimedia, 
http://www.samt2009.org/sites/default/files/mtap_cfp_flyer_v1.pdf, Erik 
will circulate a draft version soon.

2. F2F Meeting:
* Draft Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/FithF2FAgenda
** Erik: Venue details
** Thierry: Zakim booked

3. SPECIFICATION:

* ACTION: Raphael to fix the weird character in the spec document
CLOSED: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Jan/0102.html

3.1 Media Fragment URI syntax: (Yves)
* Bug in the npt specification:
Philip: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Nov/0023.html
Dom: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Jan/0093.html
* ACTION-126: Yves to follow up on error in ABFN for npt
* ACTION-132: Philip to send to the mailing list a description of a new 
issue to be discussed (dealing with decimal for specifying time?) 	
* Approval of Philip changes: switch to EBNF syntax

3.2 Protocol for URI fragment Resolution in HTTP:
* ACTION: Raphael to ask on the mailing list if anybody has any problem 
with the changes proposed by Philip
* ACTION-123: Yves to come up with ABNF for header syntax
* ACTION-133: Erik to try to generate some time diagram for the protocol 
description in the section 5.2.1.x
* Review of the complete Section 5.2.1 for group approval
* Question of MF URI validity by Philip:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Nov/0023.html
* Suggestion of nasty test cases by Philip:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Dec/0015.html

3.3 Rendering of Media Fragments URI in UA:
* ACTION-130: Silvia to draft a new subsection in the Section 5 
regarding the rendering in the UI of media fragments, at least for the 
temporal dimension
* Davy: thoughts about other dimensions (spatial, track)

3.4 Discovery of 'Track' and 'Named' fragments:
* ISSUE-4 [Silvia]: Should we pre-define some track names?
* Davy's strawman implementation using ROE:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Nov/0014.html
* Silvia's blog post:
http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/11/25/manifests-exposing-structure-of-a-composite-media-resource/ 

* Jack's proposal to write up that we should distinguish the mechanism 
(ROE, MPEG-21) vs the semantics

3.5 Handling of 'Track' and 'ID':
Conrad's proposal (Fragment header):
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Server-parsed_Fragments

4. ISSUES

4.1 Active:
* ACTION-131: Davy to write down a new ISSUE in the tracker regarding 
the problem raised by werner (see also raphael's summary)

4.2 Non-Active:
* ISSUE-5 [Jack]: Handling spatial cropping requires information at
client-side
* ISSUE-6 [Jack]: Temporal clips that require transcoding
* ISSUE-7 [Michael]: User Agent Media Fragment Resolution and Processing
* ISSUE-9 [Michael]: Should we have the media type inside the Test Cases?
* ISSUE-12 [Raphael]: What's the relationship between Images (CSS) 
Sprites and the spatial dimension of the Media Fragments URI scheme?
* ISSUE-13 [Raphael]: Write a IETF draft for proposing how to register 
the fragment scheme for all media types

5. TEST CASES: (Michael)
* Corrib test tool: http://ld2sd.deri.org/corrib/ * ACTION-108: Michael 
to add the missing test cases in corrib
* ACTION-115: Michael to come up with categorization of test cases wrt
empty, undefined, etc
* ACTION-118: Michael to come up with individual 'normal' test cases (+/-20)
* ACTION-119: Yves to request admins to set up a cvs notifications 
mailing list and notifications
* ACTION-129: Michael to move the editorial note 
http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-overview-errors 
to the TC (wiki)

6. IMPLEMENTATION:
* ACTION-34: Jack to look at python-url library to see whether he could
implement the logic on client side
* ACTION-35: Raphael to look at curl and/or wget to see whether the logic
could be implemented on client side
* ACTION-70: Jack to commit in CVS (code directory) his python code 
doing the parsing on client side of the media fragment
* ACTION-71: Michael to investigate whether he could have an 
implementation in Javascript that does the client-side media fragments 
parsing

7. AOB

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RaphaŽl Troncy
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