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Re: ACTION-76 : Question if MPEG-21 Part 17 got registered on IANA as a media mime type for fragments

From: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:40:21 +0100
To: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
CC: Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
Message-ID: <C680CDA5.6592%michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
David,

> correct, but I don't think they need to be; the fragment details are
> in the referenced specifications, so the fragment scheme is defined
> for both, in the formal sense...

Frankly, I'm not totally convinced. If you compare the application/mp21
registration with application/xhtml+xml [1] you will find that there the
fragment identifiers semantics have been explicitly mentioned.

Thoughts?

Cheers,
      Michael

[1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3236#section-3

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> From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:47:20 +0200
> To: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
> Cc: erik mannens <erik.mannens@ugent.be>, Media Fragment
> <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: ACTION-76 : Question if MPEG-21 Part 17 got registered on  IANA
> as  a media mime type for fragments
> Resent-From: Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
> Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:49:48 +0000
> 
> At 19:40  +1000 13/07/09, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
>> I checked the documents - while the mime types are registered, the
>> proposed fragment addressing schemes are not part of those
>> registration documents. I think that was the point that Erik was
>> trying to make. If this is incorrect, please explain - maybe the
>> fragment addressing schemes were registered differently.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Silvia.
> 
> correct, but I don't think they need to be; the fragment details are
> in the referenced specifications, so the fragment scheme is defined
> for both, in the formal sense...
> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:38 PM, David Singer<singer@apple.com> wrote:
>>>  The MPEG-21 and MPEG-4 media types are both registered, MPEG-21 recently.
>>> 
>>>  From: "Amanda Baber via RT" <iana-mime@iana.org>
>>> 
>>>  Date: July 8, 2009 2:22:47 AM GMT+02:00
>>> 
>>>  Cc: christian.timmerer@itec.uni-klu.ac.at, singer@apple.com
>>> 
>>>  Subject: [IANA #249445] Media Type Registration Reviews - Standards Tree/No
>>>  Internet  Draft
>>> 
>>>  Reply-To: iana-mime@iana.org
>>> 
>>>  Dear Christian and David,
>>> 
>>>  Per the IESG, IANA has registered the following media type with
>>>  David as the point of contact:
>>> 
>>>  application/mp21
>>> 
>>>  Please see
>>> 
>>>  http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/application/
>>> 
>>>  If you need to update the contact information, please send a
>>>  message to iana@iana.org.
>>> 
>>>  Best regards,
>>> 
>>>  Amanda Baber
>>>  Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  At 10:34  +0200 8/07/09, erik mannens wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Dear all,
>>> 
>>>  As one of the MPEG-21 editors notified, they did not register any mime-type
>>>  for their fragmenting scheme (as we expected). During the next phoneconf
>>>  this action can therefore be closed.
>>> 
>>>  Sincere greetings,
>>> 
>>>  Erik
>>> 
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: myriam [mailto:myriam.amielh@cisra.canon.com.au]
>>>  Sent: donderdag 2 juli 2009 1:58
>>>  To: erik mannens
>>>  Cc: sylvain.devillers@francetelecom.com
>>>  Subject: Re: Quick question if MPEG-21 Part 17 got registered on IANA as a
>>>  media mime type for fragments
>>> 
>>>  Dear Eric,
>>>  no we did not propose any mime type registration.
>>>  feel free to contact me again should you have any questions,
>>>  Best regards
>>>  Myriam
>>> 
>>>  Research Manager
>>>  Canon Information System Research Australia
>>> 
>>>  erik mannens wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Dear Myriam, Sylvain,
>>>> 
>>>>  As co-chair of W3C's Media Fragments group [1] I ask you as editors of
>>>>  MPEG-21 Part 17 if your fragmenting scheme was ever registered as a
>>>>  media mime type for fragments on IANA? Thanks in advance for the
>>>>  prompt reply and have a nice day.
>>>> 
>>>>  Sincere greetings,
>>>> 
>>>>  Erik Mannens
>>>> 
>>>>  Project Manager
>>>> 
>>>>  Gaston Crommenlaan 8 bus 201
>>>> 
>>>>  B-9050 Ledeberg-Ghent, Belgium
>>>> 
>>>>  T: +32 9 331 49 93
>>>> 
>>>>  F: +32 9 331 48 96
>>>> 
>>>>  M: +32 473 27 44 17
>>>> 
>>>>  http://multimedialab.elis.ugent.be
>>>> 
>>>>  [1]: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>  --
>>> 
>>>  David Singer
>>>  Multimedia Standards, Apple Inc.
> 
> 
> -- 
> David Singer
> Multimedia Standards, Apple Inc.
> 
Received on Monday, 13 July 2009 10:41:12 GMT

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