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Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 02 December, Telecon 1000 UTC

From: Philip Jägenstedt <philipj@opera.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:16:17 +0100
To: Raphaël Troncy <Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl>, public-media-fragment@w3.org
Cc: "Erik Mannens" <erik.mannens@ugent.be>
Message-ID: <op.u4aa1fbjsr6mfa@worf>
On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:08:20 +0100, Raphaël Troncy <Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl>  
wrote:

> Dear Media Fragmenters,
>
> Please, find below the agenda for this week telecon:
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=02&month=12&year=2009&hour=10&min=00&sec=0&p1=0
>
> Yves will be our scribe (Conrad is on deck). Actions opened:
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/open
> Best regards.
>
>    Erik & Raphaël
>
> ------------
>
> AGENDA Teleconference
> W3C Media Fragments Working Group telephone conference 2009-12-02
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Wednesday, 02 December *10:00-11:00 UTC*
> Local time:
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=02&month=12&year=2009&hour=10&min=00&sec=0&p1=0
>
> 02 December 2009, 1000 UTC
>               0200 (West US)
>               1000 (Galway)
>               1100 (Amsterdam, Sophia-Antipolis, Pretoria)
>               1900 (Tokyo)		*NEW HOUR*
>               2100 (Sydney)		*NEW HOUR*
> Bridge US: +1-617-761-6200 (Zakim)
> Bridge FR: +33.4.89.06.34.99
> Bridge UK: +44.117.370.6152
> Conference code : 3724# (spells "FRAG")
> Duration : 60 minutes
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> IRC channel          : #mediafrag on irc.w3.org:6665
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> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Chair: Raphael
> Regrets: Erik, Jack
> ScribeList: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/ScribeList
> Scribe: Yves (On Deck: Conrad)
>
> Please note that Media Fragments WG telecons are for attendance by
> members and invited experts only.
>
> 1. ADMIN:
> * Roll call
> * PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 25 November 2009
> telecon:
> http://www.w3.org/2009/11/25-mediafrag-minutes.html
> * Next F2F Meeting? Media Annotations WG will meet 2 days in the week
> Feb 22 - 26, 2010 in Korea. Should we meet there?
> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42785/february-f2f/results
> * ACTION-92: Erik and Raphael to coordinate the writing of papers
> (ongoing ... re-raise around 15/01/10)
>
> 2. UC & REQUIREMENTS:
> * ACTION-122: Raphael to drop "-spec" for the short URI of the spec  
> document
>
> 3. SPECIFICATION:
>
> 3.1 Media Fragment URI syntax: (Yves)
> * Bug in the npt specification found by Philip:  
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Nov/0023.html
>
> 3.2 UA Server HTTP Communication: (Conrad/Raphael)
> * ACTION-112: Raphael to Propose a digest of Conrad and current's
> proposal regarding the use of existing and custom headers for the
> communication UA server
>
> 3.3 Handling of 'Track' and 'ID':
> Conrad's proposal (Fragment header):
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Server-parsed_Fragments
>
> 3.4 Discovery of 'Track' and 'Named' fragments:
> * Davy's strawman implementation using ROE:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Nov/0014.html
> * ISSUE-4 [Silvia]: Should we pre-define some track names?
>
> 4. TEST CASES: (Michael)
> * Corrib test tool: http://ld2sd.deri.org/corrib/
> * ACTION-108: Michael to add the missing test cases in corrib
> * ACTION-115: Michael to come up with categorization of test cases wrt
> empty, undefined, etc
> * ACTION-118: Michael to come up with individual 'normal' test cases
> (+/- 20)
> * ACTION-119: Yves to request admins to set up a cvs notifications
> mailing list and notifications
> * Question of MF URI validity by Philip:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Nov/0023.html
>
> 5. IMPLEMENTATION:
> * ACTION-34: Jack to look at python-url library to see whether he could
> implement the logic on client side
> * ACTION-35: Raphael to look at curl and/or wget to see whether the
> logic could be implemented on client side
> * ACTION-70: Jack to commit in CVS (code directory) his python code
> doing the parsing on client side of the media fragment
> * ACTION-71: Michael to investigate whether he could have an
> implementation in Javascript that does the client-side media fragments
> parsing
> * ACTION-120: Erik to get URL for MF server, and post to group
>
> 6. ISSUES
>
> 6.1 Active:
> None.
>
> 6.2 Non-Active:
> * ISSUE-5 [Jack]: Handling spatial cropping requires information at
> client-side
> * ISSUE-6 [Jack]: Temporal clips that require transcoding
> * ISSUE-7 [Michael]: User Agent Media Fragment Resolution and Processing
> * ISSUE-9 [Michael]: Should we have the media type inside the Test Cases?
> * ISSUE-12 [Raphael]: What's the relationship between Images (CSS)
> Sprites and the spatial dimension of the Media Fragments URI scheme?
> * ISSUE-13 [Raphael]: Write a IETF draft for proposing how to register
> the fragment scheme for all media types
>
> 7. AOB
>

As usual I won't be attending the teleconference, but am already idling in  
the IRC channel.

I don't see the issue of processing requirements (e.g. given by a parsing  
algorithm) on the agenda, which was the email linked to. As a potential  
implementor of MF this is the single most important issue, so I hope it  
will be addressed soon.

Is it safe to assume that if an email is sent to the list the editor will  
eventually do something (change the spec, ask for more input or reject the  
idea) and send a reply by email? I like this method, but if you want spec  
bugs in a special bug tracker or similar please just point me there and I  
will comply.

Also, do most of the actual discussions in this group happen by  
teleconference? The mail traffic is 50% about teleconfs, so that's what it  
seems like from the outside (I am a WG member, but an outsider to the  
process so far).

Not complaining, just asking.

-- 
Philip Jägenstedt
Core Developer
Opera Software
Received on Wednesday, 2 December 2009 00:15:51 GMT

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