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Fwd: Intent to deprecate: Insecure usage of powerful features

From: Frederick Hirsch <w3c@fjhirsch.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:49:03 -0500
Cc: Device APIs Working Group <public-device-apis@w3.org>
Message-Id: <A1B3750D-3685-4BE6-A6C1-E4B49D861229@fjhirsch.com>
To: Media Capture TF <public-media-capture@w3.org>
Sharing with the Media Capture TF as the appropriate venue for discussing getUserMedia (Media Capture and Streams specification)

see below

regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch
Chair, W3C Device APIs WG (DAP)

www.fjhirsch.com <http://www.fjhirsch.com/>
@fjhirsch



> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Joel Weinberger <jww@chromium.org>
> Date: February 26, 2015 at 6:25:43 PM EST
> To: blink-dev <blink-dev@chromium.org>
> Subject: Intent to deprecate: Insecure usage of powerful features
> Resent-From: public-device-apis@w3.org
> 
> Please note that the main discussion for this is intended to be on the blink-dev@chromium.org <mailto:blink-dev@chromium.org> mailing list (https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!forum/blink-dev <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!forum/blink-dev>). However, to alert relevant groups of the intent, we have bcc’d the following lists on this email:
> security-dev@chromium.org <mailto:security-dev@chromium.org>
> dev-security@lists.mozilla.org <mailto:dev-security@lists.mozilla.org>
> public-webappsec@w3.org <mailto:public-webappsec@w3.org>
> public-web-notification@w3.org <mailto:public-web-notification@w3.org>
> public-device-apis@w3.org <mailto:public-device-apis@w3.org>
> public-geolocation@w3.org <mailto:public-geolocation@w3.org>
> public-html-media@w3.org <mailto:public-html-media@w3.org>
> 
> We want to start applying the concepts in https://w3c.github.io/webappsec/specs/powerfulfeatures/ <https://w3c.github.io/webappsec/specs/powerfulfeatures/> to features that have already shipped and which do not meet the (new, not present at the time) requirements. We want to start by requiring secure origins for these existing features:
> 
> - Device motion / orientation
> - EME
> - Fullscreen
> - Geolocation
> - getUserMedia
> 
> As with gradually marking HTTP as non-secure (https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/marking-http-as-non-secure <https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/marking-http-as-non-secure>), we expect to gradually migrate these features to secure-only, based on thresholds of usage, starting with lowest usage and moving towards higher. We also expect to gradually indicate in the UX that the features are deprecated for non-secure origins.
> 
> The deprecation strategy for each of these features is not decided on and may very well differ from feature to feature. We don’t currently know what the thresholds will be, or how heavily used the features are on what kinds of origins. We are in the process of gathering data, and will report back when we have it. There are no firm plans at all at this time, other than eventual deprecation. We intend for this to stimulate a public discussion of the best way to approach this deprecation. So, to that point, we'd love to hear what the community thinks.
> 
> Thanks,
>    Joel Weinberger, Chrome Security
Received on Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:49:32 UTC

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