RE: MAWG - update RDF - PROPOSED TEXT FOR ERRATA

Hello Thierry,

I see the logic behind updating E01 and E02. No problem.

My additional comments:

- In E01, please update the description with the updated text from PA
Description: In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the property ma:collectionName is related to rdfs:label by rdfs:subClassOf relations, which is inconsistent with it being a property. This declaration has been removed for consistency and compatibility reasons.

- In E02, the highlighted owl:Thing is not needed I believe. It is the only occurrence in the file. None other dataProperty inherit from owl:Thing.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Pierre-Antoine - can you see a reason why this happened only on collectionName when converting to TTL? Are we missing something somewhere that causes this to be generated when converting the rdf file to ttl?

- In E02, please update the description with the updated text from PA
Description: In the TTL representation of the Media Ontology, the property ma:collectionName is related to rdfs:label by rdfs:subClassOf relations, which is inconsistent with it being a property. This declaration has been removed for consistency and compatibility reasons.

- E06 is fine

- E07 is fine

Pierre-Antoine also sent an additional correction - IsRatingOf is capitalised in the specification when it shouldn't as well in the rdf and TTL files

- NEW EOXXX: Correction in the RDF/XML of the case in property name isRatingOf

Description:

In the RDF/OWL property name isRatingOf is mispelled IsRatingOf (uppercase "i").

Resolution:

IsRatingOf

Changed to :

isRatingOf

The updated derived RDF/XML representation is available at http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf

- NEW EOXXX: Correction in the TTL of the case in property name isRatingOf

Description:

In the TTL property name isRatingOf is mispelled IsRatingOf (uppercase "i").

Resolution:

IsRatingOf

Changed to :

isRatingOf

The updated derived RDF/XML representation is available at http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl



And of course the files must be updated with the attached files (removed owl:Thing) unless PA screams :--) as he generated the TTL.

Best regards,

Jean-pierre




-----Original Message-----
From: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
Sent: vendredi, 22. mars 2013 18:06
To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org; 'Joakim Söderberg'; 'Pierre-Antoine Champin'; tobias@tobiasbuerger.com
Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF - PROPOSED TEXT FOR ERRATA

Jean Pierre,

I had to deal with the errata a bit differently ...

I have modified the former errata E01 and E02 I have added the errata E0- and E07


Therefore, I have changed your email errata proposal for E01 and E02 to start the correction from the version *from the spec* (not from the former errata page) to your latest proposal.

Therefore I have published a temporary errata page at https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html

details of my updates in line, following.


If you are OK with these errata proposal, I will update the errata page next week  (with the temporary one)
  https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html

and will publish the two new files at

http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf
http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl

Thierry



On 22/03/2013 09:47, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Please find attached the new errata items addressing the changes made
> to the rdf/owl and derived ttl files
>
> Please let me know if I missed something.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jean-Pierre
>
> @@@@@@@@@@@
>
> NEW ERRATA ITEMS
>
> 1/ E0XXX: Correction in the RDF/OWL representation of the Media
> Ontology in section 7.3
>
> Description:
>
> In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the property
> ma:collectionName is declared to be a subproperty of rdfs:label. This declaration is being removed to avoid problems of incompatibilities.
>
> Resolution:
>
> <owl:DatatypeProperty rdf:ID="collectionName"> <rdfs:domain
> rdf:resource="#Collection"/> <rdfs:comment>The name by which a
> collection (e.g. series) is known.</rdfs:comment> <rdfs:subPropertyOf
> rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#label"/>
> </owl:DatatypeProperty>
>
> Changed to :
>
> <owl:DatatypeProperty rdf:ID="collectionName"> <rdfs:domain
> rdf:resource="#Collection"/> <rdfs:comment>The name by which a
> collection (e.g. series) is known.</rdfs:comment>
> </owl:DatatypeProperty>
>
> The updated RDF/OWL representation is available at
> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf

So my understanding is that we had introduced a wrong line:
<rdfs:subPropertyOf
rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#label"/>

I have changed your errata proposal to start the correction from the version from the spec to your latest version.

see spec version
http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-10/#ont-owl


see new errata
https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html#E01


Let me know if this is good.



>
> 2/ E0XXX: Correction in the TTL representation of the Media Ontology
> in section 8
>
> Description:
>
> In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the property
> ma:collectionName is declared to be a subproperty of rdfs:label. This declaration is being removed to avoid problems of incompatibilities.
>
> Resolution:
>
> :collectionName a owl:DatatypeProperty; rdfs:comment "The name by
> which a collection (e.g. series) is known."; rdfs:domain :Collection;
> rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label .
>
> Changed to :
>
> :collectionName a owl:DatatypeProperty, owl:Thing; rdfs:comment "The
> name by which a collection (e.g. series) is known."; rdfs:domain
> :Collection .
>
> The updated derived TTL representation is available at
> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl


So my understanding is that we had introduced a wrong line in the former
errata:
rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label

see former errata
http://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html#E02


I have changed your errata proposal to start the correction from the version from the spec to your latest version.


see spec version
http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-10/#ont-ttl


see new errata
https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html#E02


Let me know if this is good.



>
> 3/ EOXXX: Correction in the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology in section 7.3
>
> Description:
>
> In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the import reference to Dublin Core is broken.
>
> Resolution:
>
> <owl:imports rdf:resource="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"/>
>
> Changed to :
>
> <owl:imports rdf:resource="http://dublincore.org/2008/01/14/dcelements.rdf"/>
>
> The updated RDF/OWL representation is available at http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf


I have added this new errata.
see new errata
https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html#E06


>
> 4/ EOXXX: Correction in the TTL representation of the Media Ontology in section 8
>
> Description:
>
> In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the import reference to Dublin Core is broken.
>
> Resolution:
>
> owl:imports dc:;
>
> Changed to :
>
> owl:imports <http://dublincore.org/2008/01/14/dcelements.rdf>;
>
> The updated derived TTL representation is available at http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl


I have added this new errata.
see new errata
https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html#E07






>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Evain, Jean-Pierre [mailto:evain@ebu.ch]
> Sent: vendredi, 22. mars 2013 09:02
> To: 'Thierry MICHEL'
> Cc: 'Joakim Soderberg'; public-media-annotation@w3.org
> Subject: RE: MAWG - update RDF
>
> One new errata will actually concern EO1 and will removed the subproperty declaration to rdfs:label in bothe the rdf and the derived ttl
>
> Another new errata will be the correction of the import reference to dc.rdf.
>
> Jean-Pierre
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
> Sent: vendredi, 22. mars 2013 08:30
> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
> Cc: 'Joakim Soderberg'; public-media-annotation@w3.org
> Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF
>
> And one more thing,
>
> The already existing errata at
> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html
>
> are also in the new files ?
> (I havn't check).
>
> Thierry
>
> On 22/03/2013 07:30, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote:
>> Dear Michel,
>>
>> thanks for the instructions. We'll follow your recommendations.
>>
>> I hope the group will agree as the file is otherwsie not validating in particular because of a non persistent refernece from Dublin Core. But I would of course provide you with the detailed information needed for the errata.
>>
>> I guess we'll need to organise a MAWG call soon.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> jean-Pierre
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Thierry MICHEL [tmichel@w3.org]
>> Sent: 21 March 2013 20:44
>> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
>> Cc: 'Joakim Soderberg'; public-media-annotation@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF
>>
>> Jean Pierre,
>>
>>
>> We have those two files included (nested)  in the Ontology for Media
>> Resources 1.0 Recommendation
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-10/#ont-owl
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-10/#ont-ttl
>>
>> and also published at
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl
>>
>>
>> If I update these two files there, then there will be a deferent
>> version in the Recommendation.
>>
>> The only way to solve this is to update these two files at
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl
>>
>> and publish an errata with these changes at
>> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html
>>
>>
>> Therefore I need
>> 1- to have the Group to approve these changes.
>> 2- Know the exact changes to update the errata page.
>>
>> Is this OK ?
>>
>>
>> Thierry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21/03/2013 17:13, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote:
>>> Me too and I insist that these are corrections and not changes.
>>>
>>> Best, JP
>>>
>>> From: Joakim Soderberg [mailto:soderberg.pj@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: jeudi, 21. mars 2013 16:40
>>> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
>>> Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org
>>> Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF
>>>
>>> I hope it gets accepted. Thierry, will this have to be published as a separate version?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Evain, Jean-Pierre <evain@ebu.ch<mailto:evain@ebu.ch>> wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> A group of MAWG members are making a submission to an RFT from ISO/JPEG proposing to adopt our ma-ont ontology.
>>>
>>> This submission contains links to the rdf and ttl files accessible from:
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf
>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl
>>>
>>> A couple of corrections have proved to be required with no impact on the ontology structure:
>>>
>>> 1/ surprisingly the reference to DublinCore in RDF (e.g. used for
>>> comments) was broken and had to be replaced 2/ the collectionName property used to be declared as a subclass of rdfs:label but this generates problems. Therefore collectionName is now just a dataProperty like for title, description, etc.
>>> 3/ we have added a comment saying that the rdf an ttl files take precedence over the specification, which contains a copy of the rdf file (and we think that the corrections made do not justify going through a revision of the specification itself).
>>>
>>> This work has been carried out in collaboration with Pierre-Antoine Champin (who also generated the ttl file) and Tobias Buerger.
>>>
>>> The corrected files are attached and we have asked Thierry Michel to upload these new versions in place of the existing ones.
>>>
>>> We hope that this is agreeable to all members of the MAWG.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Jean-Pierre
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