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From: Höffernig, Martin <Martin.Hoeffernig@joanneum.at>
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:31:48 +0100
To: Florian Stegmaier <stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de>, "tmichel@w3.org" <tmichel@w3.org>
CC: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>, "Bailer, Werner" <werner.bailer@joanneum.at>, "public-media-annotation@w3.org" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CD9846F872C7874BB4E0FDF2A61EF09FDB1B550679@RZJC1EX.jr1.local>
Dear Felix, all,

I have checked the RDF and TTL version of the XMP example.
Both ontology files (RDF and TTL version) contain the property ma:identifier in connection with 3 different identifier values (xmp:Identifier 1, xmp:Identifier 2, xmp:Identifier 3).
However, property ma:identifier is no longer part of ma ontology spec [1].

[1]: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/PR-mediaont-10-20111129/#correspondance-id1

Best,
Martin


> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Florian Stegmaier [mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 02. Februar 2012 10:40
> An: tmichel@w3.org
> Cc: Felix Sasaki; Bailer, Werner; public-media-annotation@w3.org
> Betreff: Re: XMP example and XMP JSON response files don't seem to be
> in sync.
> 
> Hi Thierry, all,
> 
> at the moment, Martin is checking the RDF file. In case the RDF file is
> correct (which i think it will be), i will check the JSON response, if
> it fits to the current RDF version. I will send you my findings later.
> 
> Cheers.
> _____________________________
> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier
> Chair of Distributed Information Systems University of Passau Innstr.
> 43
> 94032 Passau
> 
> Room 248 ITZ
> 
> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063
> Fax: +49 851 509 3062
> 
> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de
> https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/
> http://twitter.com/fstegmai
> _____________________________
> 
> Am 02.02.2012 um 10:38 schrieb Thierry MICHEL:
> 
> > Felix,
> >
> > I have republished the  XMP .rdf and .ttl file from
> > http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-
> mapped
> > -to-mawg-by-xslt.ttl
> > and
> > http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-
> mapped
> > -to-mawg-by-xslt.rdf
> >
> > to
> >
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/xm
> > p-canonical-mapped-to-mawg.ttl
> >
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/xm
> > p-canonical-mapped-to-mawg.rdf
> >
> > these RDf and TTL files seem identical to the former ones.
> >
> >
> > I hope it is also the case for the corresponding JSON response
> >
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/API10/JSON/normativ
> > e_json_ma_xmp.json
> >
> > Because I have used this file to make the testsuite ...
> >
> > Thierry.
> >
> >
> >
> > Le 02/02/2012 09:31, Felix Sasaki a écrit :
> >> Thierry, Florian, all,
> >>
> >> I have generated the .rdf and .ttl file from the .xml file
> >> automatically, these are definitely in sync. Florian, could you
> >> re-generate the JSON file from
> >>  <http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-**
> >> canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.rdf<http://fabday.fh-
> potsdam.de/~s
> >> asaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.rdf>
> >>>
> >> ?
> >>
> >> Then we are sure that everything is OK.
> >>
> >> Felix
> >>
> >> 2012/1/31 Thierry Michel<tmichel@w3.org>
> >>
> >>> Felix,
> >>>
> >>> could you please check that the 4 files are indeed in sync
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.w3.org/2008/**WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/**
> >>> metadata_formats/xmp-**canonical-
> original.xml<http://www.w3.org/2008
> >>> /WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/xmp-canonical-
> original
> >>> .xml><
> >>> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/MAWG_**
> >>> test_canonical.xml<http://fabday.fh-
> potsdam.de/%7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xs
> >>> lt/MAWG_test_canonical.xml>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.w3.org/2008/**WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/**
> >>> metadata_formats/xmp-**canonical-mapped-to-
> mawg.rdf<http://www.w3.or
> >>> g/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/xmp-canonical-
> ma
> >>> pped-to-mawg.rdf><
> >>> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-**
> >>> canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.rdf<http://fabday.fh-
> potsdam.de/%
> >>> 7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.rdf>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.w3.org/2008/**WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/**
> >>> metadata_formats/xmp-**canonical-mapped-to-
> mawg.ttl<http://www.w3.or
> >>> g/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/xmp-canonical-
> ma
> >>> pped-to-mawg.ttl><
> >>> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-**
> >>> canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.ttl<http://fabday.fh-
> potsdam.de/%
> >>> 7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.ttl>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.w3.org/2008/**WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/**
> >>>
> API10/JSON/normative_json_ma_**xmp.json<http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVi
> >>> deo/Annotations/drafts/API10/JSON/normative_json_ma_xmp.json>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> I would not want to have to redo the alll test suite ...
> >>>
> >>> Thierry
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Felix Sasaki a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2012/1/31 Thierry Michel<tmichel@w3.org<mailto:tmichel@w3.org>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    Felix,
> >>>>
> >>>>    I have just published the RDF file you have sent.
> >>>>    http://www.w3.org/2008/**WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/**
> >>>> metadata_formats/xmp-**canonical-
> original.xml<http://www.w3.org/200
> >>>> 8/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/xmp-canonical-
> origin
> >>>> al.xml>
> >>>>
> >>>>    But I am getting lost now with your new wording.
> >>>>
> >>>>    Could you please send me the apropriate 4 files in sync ASAP
> >>>>
> >>>>    XMP- xml
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> See http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~**sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/MAWG_**
> >>>> test_canonical.xml<http://fabday.fh-
> potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xsl
> >>>> t/MAWG_test_canonical.xml><
> >>>> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/MAWG_**
> >>>> test_canonical.xml<http://fabday.fh-
> potsdam.de/%7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/x
> >>>> slt/MAWG_test_canonical.xml>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    XMP- rdf
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> See http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~**sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-**
> >>>> canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.rdf<http://fabday.fh-
> potsdam.de/
> >>>> ~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.rdf><
> >>>> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-**
> >>>> canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.rdf<http://fabday.fh-
> potsdam.de/
> >>>> %7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.rdf>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    XMP- ttl
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> See http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~**sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-**
> >>>> canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.ttl<http://fabday.fh-
> potsdam.de/
> >>>> ~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.ttl><
> >>>> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-**
> >>>> canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.ttl<http://fabday.fh-
> potsdam.de/
> >>>> %7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.ttl>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    XMP- JSON
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> As Florian pointed out, this file has not changed. It has been
> >>>> generated by Florian from the RDF, so I cannot re-generate it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>>
> >>>> Felix
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    I am working on the implementation report and I must have the
> >>>>    final files to work on these.
> >>>>
> >>>>    thanks you.
> >>>>
> >>>>    thierry
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    Felix Sasaki a écrit :
> >>>>
> >>>>        Yes indeed :)
> >>>>
> >>>>        Felix
> >>>>
> >>>>        2012/1/31 Florian Stegmaier<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-
> passau.**de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de>
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-
> pas
> >>>> sau.de>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-
> pas
> >>>> sau.de>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-
> pas
> >>>> sau.de>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>           Hi Felix, all!
> >>>>
> >>>>           In that case, Thierry should use the file as it was ;)
> >>>>
> >>>>           Cheers.
> >>>>           _____________________________
> >>>>           Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier
> >>>>           Chair of Distributed Information Systems
> >>>>           University of Passau
> >>>>           Innstr. 43
> >>>>           94032 Passau
> >>>>
> >>>>           Room 248 ITZ
> >>>>
> >>>>           Tel.: +49 851 509 3063<tel:%2B49%20851%20509%203063>
> >>>>        <tel:%2B49%20851%20509%203063>
> >>>>           Fax: +49 851 509 3062<tel:%2B49%20851%20509%203062>
> >>>>        <tel:%2B49%20851%20509%203062>
> >>>>
> >>>>           stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.**de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-
> passau.de>
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-
> pas
> >>>> sau.de>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-
> pas
> >>>> sau.de>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-
> pas
> >>>> sau.de>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>           https://www.dimis.fim.uni-
> **passau.de/iris/<https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/>
> >>>>           http://twitter.com/fstegmai
> >>>>           _____________________________
> >>>>
> >>>>           Am 31.01.2012 um 13:02 schrieb Felix Sasaki:
> >>>>
> >>>>           >  This was an error in the XSLT that generates the RDF
> from the
> >>>>           original XMP. I have fixed this now, see
> >>>>           >
> >>>>           >  http://fabday.fh-
> potsdam.de/~**sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/<http://fabday.fh-
> potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/>
> >>>>
> >>>> <http://fabday.fh-
> potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/<http://fabd
> >>>> ay.fh-potsdam.de/%7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> <http://fabday.fh-
> potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/<http://fabd
> >>>> ay.fh-potsdam.de/%7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>           >
> >>>>
> >>>> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~**sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-
> >>>> **canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.rdf<http://fabday.fh-
> potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-
> xslt.rdf>
> >>>>
> >>>> <http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-**
> >>>> canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.rdf<http://fabday.fh-
> potsdam.de/
> >>>> %7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.rdf>
> >>>>>
> >>>>                  <http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**
> >>>> 7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-**canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-
> **xslt.rdf
> >>>> <http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-
> canonical-
> >>>> mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.rdf>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>           >
> >>>>           >  Florian, I guess you when need to regenerate the JSON
> >>>>        from above
> >>>>           RDF.
> >>>>           >
> >>>>           >  Felix
> >>>>           >
> >>>>           >  2012/1/31 Bailer, Werner<werner.bailer@joanneum.at
> >>>>
> <mailto:werner.bailer@**joanneum.at<werner.bailer@joanneum.at>>
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:werner.bailer@**joanneum.at<werner.bailer@joanneum.at>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:werner.bailer@**joanneum.at<werner.bailer@joanneum.at>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>           >  For some reason, the additional identifiers from the
> original
> >>>>           XMP files were dropped in the RDF rather than having
> multiple
> >>>>           identifiers, there is a comment instead
> >>>>        <!--xmp:Identifier-->  in
> >>>>           the RDF.
> >>>>           >
> >>>>           >  Best regards,
> >>>>           >  Werner
> >>>>           >
> >>>>           >  >  -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >>>>           >  >  Von: Florian Stegmaier
> >>>>        [mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-
> **passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de>
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-
> pas
> >>>> sau.de>
> >>>>>
> >>>>           <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-
> **passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de>
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-
> pas
> >>>> sau.de>
> >>>>>> ]
> >>>>           >  >  Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Jänner 2012 12:27
> >>>>           >  >  An: tmichel@w3.org<mailto:tmichel@w3.org>
> >>>>        <mailto:tmichel@w3.org<mailto:tmichel@w3.org>>
> >>>>
> >>>>           >  >  Cc: Felix Sasaki; public-media-annotation@w3.org
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:public-media-**annotation@w3.org<public-media-
> annotation@w3
> >>>> .org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:public-media-**annotation@w3.org<public-media-
> annotation@w3
> >>>> .org>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> <mailto:public-media-**annotation@w3.org<public-media-
> annotation@w3
> >>>> .org>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>           >  >  Betreff: Re: XMP example and XMP JSON response
> files don't
> >>>>           seem to be in
> >>>>           >  >  sync.
> >>>>           >  >
> >>>>           >  >  Hi Thierry,
> >>>>           >  >
> >>>>           >  >  yes, i have already told you that this is is a
> relict
> >>>>        before
> >>>>           our decision to use
> >>>>           >  >  the RDF data set as basis. Please use the attached
> >>>>        version of
> >>>>           the JSON
> >>>>           >  >  instead. In any case, the information of the RDF
> shall be
> >>>>           reflected in the
> >>>>           >  >  JSON.
> >>>>           >  >
> >>>>           >  >  Are there also difficulties because of *-a/*-b
> test cases?
> >>>>           >  >
> >>>>           >  >  Cheers.
> >>>>           >
> >>>>           >
> >>>>           >
> >>>>           >  --
> >>>>           >  Felix Sasaki
> >>>>           >  DFKI / W3C Fellow
> >>>>           >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>        --         Felix Sasaki
> >>>>        DFKI / W3C Fellow
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Felix Sasaki
> >>>> DFKI / W3C Fellow
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> 
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