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RE: Issue with DC XPath Expressions

From: Wonsuk Lee <wonsuk11.lee@samsung.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 22:08:02 +0900
To: tmichel@w3.org, 'Wonsuk Lee' <wonsuk73@gmail.com>
Cc: 'Florian Stegmaier' <stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de>, 'Tom Kurz' <thomas.kurz@salzburgresearch.at>, public-media-annotation@w3.org
Message-id: <037b01cd1263$f749bec0$e5dd3c40$%lee@samsung.com>
Hi. Thierry.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:58 PM
> To: Wonsuk Lee
> Cc: Florian Stegmaier; Wonsuk Lee; Tom Kurz; public-media-
> annotation@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Issue with DC XPath Expressions
> 
> Wonsuk,
> 
> I can not revised the Ontology Recommendation as the document is frozen.
> Therefore I have added these issues in the errata page (linked from the
> Rec).
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html
> 
> Please review and confirm that it is OK.

Thanks. It's good.

Best regards,
Wonsuk.

> Thierry.
> 
> 
> Le 04/04/2012 01:31, Wonsuk Lee a écrit :
> > Hi. Florian and All.
> > Sorry for late reply.
> >
> > Thanks for Florian, two properties mapping were wrong.
> >
> > I added inline comments
> >
> > 2012년 3월 15일 오후 11:42, Florian Stegmaier<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-
> passau.de>님의 말:
> >> Hi Wonsuk, all,
> >>
> >> If we consider the YouTube XML response [1] as a basis for the XPath
> expressions specified in the corresponding mapping table, they are not
> valid for the following properties
> >>
> >> targetAudience ->  here media:rating is not under media:content but
> under media:group. this is not specified in the table.
> >
> > That's correct. We have to revise this mapping as below.
> > rss/channel/item/media:group/media:rating
> >
> > @Thierry: Could you update this in the ontology REC spec?
> >
> >> compression ->  media:content is not directly a child of item, but of
> media:group
> >>
> >> duration ->  same issue as with compression
> >>
> >> format ->  same issue as with compression
> >
> > Current mapping table is correct for above three items (compression,
> > duration, format).
> >
> >
> >> publisher ->  complete different XPath
> >
> > That's right. This is similar mistake with earlier one. I think I was
> > confused between media:content and media:group for some mapping.
> >
> > Therefore this mapping should be changed as below.
> > rss/channel/item/media:group/media:credit[@role='uploader']
> >
> > @Thierry: Please update this in the REC spec.
> >
> > best regards,
> > Wonsuk.
> >
> >
> >> i hope this clarifies things a little bit.
> >>
> >> Cheers.
> >>
> >> [1]
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/Youtub
> e-new-example.xml
> >> _____________________________
> >> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier
> >> Chair of Distributed Information Systems
> >> University of Passau
> >> Innstr. 43
> >> 94032 Passau
> >>
> >> Room 248 ITZ
> >>
> >> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063
> >> Fax: +49 851 509 3062
> >>
> >> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de
> >> https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/
> >> http://twitter.com/fstegmai
> >> _____________________________
> >>
> >> Am 15.03.2012 um 01:12 schrieb Wonsuk Lee:
> >>
> >>> Hi. Thierry.
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:12 PM
> >>>> To: Florian Stegmaier; Wonsuk Lee
> >>>> Cc: Tom Kurz; public-media-annotation@w3.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: Issue with DC XPath Expressions
> >>>>
> >>>> Florian,
> >>>>
> >>>> OK in YouTube, that is clear;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> The Ontology is not a REC. It is FROZEN.
> >>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/        2012/REC-mediaont-10-20120209/
> >>>>
> >>>> The only thing we can do is to have an errata listed here.
> >>>> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html
> >>>>
> >>>> and /or in the document "A list of candidate formats  with additional
> >>>> mappings is available"
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/additional-
> >>>> mappings.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Let's discuss it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Also could you please provide the You Tube XPath expressions
> >>>>   for which Thomas has identified problems:
> >>>>
> >>>>   targetAudience, compression, duration, format, publisher
> >>>>
> >>>> Wonsuk, could you please have a look at this issue ?
> >>>
> >>> Sure.
> >>> @Florian: Could you let  me know the problems Thomas did look for?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Wonsuk.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thierry.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Le 14/03/2012 12:03, Florian Stegmaier a écrit :
> >>>>> Sorry Thierry...not DC but in Youtube. Maybe these were once valid,
> but
> >>>> now they have changed for the named properties.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _____________________________
> >>>>> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier
> >>>>> Chair of Distributed Information Systems
> >>>>> University of Passau
> >>>>> Innstr. 43
> >>>>> 94032 Passau
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Room 248 ITZ
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063
> >>>>> Fax: +49 851 509 3062
> >>>>>
> >>>>> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de
> >>>>> https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/
> >>>>> http://twitter.com/fstegmai
> >>>>> _____________________________
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Am 14.03.2012 um 11:52 schrieb Thierry MICHEL:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Florian,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am not sure I understand the issue.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Dublin Core Xpath expressions
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/REC-mediaont-10-20120209/#dc-table
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> are all N/A.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What exactly needs to be updated ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thierry
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Le 14/03/2012 09:30, Florian Stegmaier a écrit :
> >>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> these are the properties, for which Thomas has identified XPath
> >>>> problem:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> targetAudience, compression, duration, format, publisher
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers.
> >>>>>>> _____________________________
> >>>>>>> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier
> >>>>>>> Chair of Distributed Information Systems
> >>>>>>> University of Passau
> >>>>>>> Innstr. 43
> >>>>>>> 94032 Passau
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Room 248 ITZ
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063
> >>>>>>> Fax: +49 851 509 3062
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de
> >>>>>>> https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/
> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/fstegmai
> >>>>>>> _____________________________
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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