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Re: XSLT-Stylesheet for conversion XMP > MAWG

From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:11:57 +0200
Message-ID: <4E6FAAFD.1050903@w3.org>
To: Felix Sasaki <felix.sasaki@dfki.de>
CC: martin.hoeffernig@joanneum.at, "public-media-annotation@w3.org" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>
Felix,

Files uploaded in the Ontology Testsuite

Thanks,

T.

Le 13/09/2011 15:10, Felix Sasaki a écrit :
> Thierry, Martin, all,
>
> I implemented Martin's comments:
> - input file with only one creation date value
> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/MAWG_test_canonical.xml
> - XSLT transformation that solves the issues with multiple labels for
> ma:hasLanguage and ma:hasPolicy
> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xml-canonical-to-mawg.xsl
> - output in RDF/XML
> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/MAWG_test_canonical_mapped-to-rdf-by-xslt.xml
> - output in TTL
> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/MAWG_test_canonical_mapped-to-rdf-by-xslt.ttl
>
> Regards,
>
> Felix
>
> 2011/9/12 Felix Sasaki<felix.sasaki@dfki.de>
>
>> Sorry, Thierry, I don't remember the discussion with Werner  in detail.
>> There is no label and no bag in
>>
>>> ma:date "2009"^^xsd:gYear,
>>> "2010-11-18T11:57:24+01:00"^^xsd:dateTime,
>>> "2010-12"^^xsd:gYearMonth,
>>> "2010-12-13T12:59:59.12345+02:00"^^xsd:string,
>>> "2010-12-23T14:42:31"^^xsd:dateTime,
>>> "2010-12-31"^^xsd:date,
>>> "2010-12-31T11:59:00"^^xsd:dateTime,
>>> "2010-12-31T11:59Z"^^xsd:string;
>>
>> these are plain RDF statements. Could you clarify how to deal with the
>> above?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Felix
>>
>>
>> 2011/9/12 Thierry Michel<tmichel@w3.org>
>>
>>> Felix,
>>>
>>>
>>> It is the same issue for all;
>>> This was already discussed with Werner.
>>> you should use  multiple time the same labels or avoid bags in your
>>> example.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thierry
>>>> Dear Martin, all,
>>>>
>>>> in addition to your observations and suggestions - which all make sense
>>> -,
>>>> let me mention that there are other cases of multiple examples of the
>>> same
>>>> kind of information:
>>>> * ma:date:
>>>> ma:date "2009"^^xsd:gYear,
>>>> "2010-11-18T11:57:24+01:00"^^xsd:dateTime,
>>>> "2010-12"^^xsd:gYearMonth,
>>>> "2010-12-13T12:59:59.12345+02:00"^^xsd:string,
>>>> "2010-12-23T14:42:31"^^xsd:dateTime,
>>>> "2010-12-31"^^xsd:date,
>>>> "2010-12-31T11:59:00"^^xsd:dateTime,
>>>> "2010-12-31T11:59Z"^^xsd:string;
>>>> * ma:title:
>>>> ma:title "dc:title (de-DE)"^^xsd:string,
>>>> "dc:title (en-US)"^^xsd:string,
>>>> "dc:title (x-default)"^^xsd:string,
>>>> "xmpDM:album"^^xsd:string.
>>>> In XMP it is clear where the information is coming from, e.g. from
>>> dublin
>>>> core within XM Por the xmpDM namespace. The mawg values of course don't
>>>> express provenance. So an application does not know whether it should
>>>> choose
>>>> e.g.  2010-11-18T11:57:24+01:00 or 2009 is the date value.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know how to solve this problem but just wanted you to be aware
>>> of
>>>> it. Martin, all, please let me know how you want to proceed, for
>>>> ma:hasLanguage, ma:hasPolicy, ma:date, ma:creationDate and ma:title.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Felix
>>>>
>>>> 2011/9/12 Höffernig, Martin<Martin.Hoeffernig@joanneum.at>
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Felix, Thierry, all
>>>>>
>>>>> I have finished the recheck of the latest XMP example.
>>>>> This example has passed the consistency check using Protege and Pellet.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I have some remarks which should be discussed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The value of ma:hasLanguage is a rescource containing three different
>>>>> labels:
>>>>> <ma:hasLanguage rdf:parseType="Resource">
>>>>>          <rdfs:label>en</rdfs:label>
>>>>>          <rdfs:label>de-DE</rdfs:label>
>>>>>          <rdfs:label>de-DE-bayrisch</rdfs:label>
>>>>> </ma:hasLanguage>
>>>>>
>>>>> Since no cardinality restrictions has been defined in the MA ontology,
>>>>> using multiple labels for the same resoure would be possible.
>>>>> However, the question is if the above usage of mulitpe labels is
>>> correct
>>>>> in
>>>>> the MA ontology context?
>>>>>
>>>>> I would suggest to avoid the mulitple labels for the same resource and
>>>>> describe multiple labels in the following way:
>>>>> <ma:hasLanguage rdf:parseType="Resource">
>>>>>          <rdfs:label>en</rdfs:label>
>>>>> </ma:hasLanguage>
>>>>> <ma:hasLanguage rdf:parseType="Resource">
>>>>>          <rdfs:label>de-DE</rdfs:label>
>>>>> </ma:hasLanguage>
>>>>> <ma:hasLanguage rdf:parseType="Resource">
>>>>>          <rdfs:label>de-DE-bayrisch</rdfs:label>
>>>>> </ma:hasLanguage>
>>>>>
>>>>> Another resource (value of ma:hasPolicy) contains multiple labels
>>>>> modelled
>>>>> in the same as above.
>>>>>
>>>>> Furthermore, the media resource contains two different creation dates.
>>>>>  From my side of view there can be only one creation date.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>> Von: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
>>>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 08. September 2011 20:03
>>>>>> An: Felix Sasaki; Höffernig, Martin
>>>>>> Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org; Frank Biederich
>>>>>> Betreff: Re: XSLT-Stylesheet for conversion XMP>  MAWG
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Felix, Martin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have added your 2 files (XML and RDF) into the testsuite.
>>>>>> (replace the former one.
>>>>>> Note that in the RDF I have added a comment as mentuionned in the
>>>>>> guidelines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have also added your Stylesheet for conversion of XMP (canonical
>>>>>> form)
>>>>>> to instance of "Ontology for Media Resources 1.0" in the list of
>>>>>> Implementations/demonstrators
>>>>>>
>>>>>> see
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/testsuite
>>>>>> .html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The last bit is that I have removed the former TTL file for XMP.
>>> Maybe
>>>>>> you would like to provide a new one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Martin could you check the RDF file for XMP ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks a lot for your input.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bets,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thierry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 08/09/2011 12:25, Felix Sasaki a écrit :
>>>>>>> Thierry, all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have made a slight update of the XMP examples. Attached ZIP file
>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>> a new input file MAWG_test_canonical.xml, and an output
>>>>>>> file MAWG_test_canonical_mapped-to-rdf-by-xslt.xmp
>>>>>>> can you replace input and output in the CR table for the ontology
>>>>>> document
>>>>>>> accordingly?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ZIP file also contains an XSLT stylesheet that I used for the
>>>>>> generation
>>>>>>> of the output file. Input needs to be XMP *in canonical form* (a
>>>>>> certain
>>>>>>> kind of XMP serialization). From my understanding an XMP processor
>>>>>> needs to
>>>>>>> be capable to produce that form. See the stylesheet also at
>>>>>>>
>>> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xml-canonical-to-
>>>>>> mawg.xsl
>>>>>>> Can you add the stylesheet (or maybe rather the link to it) to the
>>>>>> mapping
>>>>>>> tool list of implementations / demonstrators for the ontology? Many
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> in advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    I have put Frank Biederich from Adobe into the loop so that he is
>>>>>> aware of
>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Felix
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Prof. Dr. Felix Sasaki
>>>> Senior Researcher, Language Technology Lab
>>>> DFKI GmbH, Alt-Moabit 91c, 10559 Berlin, Germany http://www.dfki.de
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>>> Thierry Michel
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Prof. Dr. Felix Sasaki
>> Senior Researcher, Language Technology Lab
>> DFKI GmbH, Alt-Moabit 91c, 10559 Berlin, Germany http://www.dfki.de
>> phone: +49-30-23895-1807 (fax: -1810)
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