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Re: follow up on the HTTP status codes for API spec to CR.

From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:25:08 +0200
Message-ID: <4E9E8964.4030803@w3.org>
To: Florian Stegmaier <stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de>
CC: public-media-annotation@w3.org
Right,

just do the table, Note and Ack sections.

thierry

Le 19/10/2011 10:20, Florian Stegmaier a écrit :
> Hi Thierry,
>
> ok, i will update the table and Ack section! Status etc is not possible for me to set in the DEV space.
>
> Best.
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> Am 19.10.2011 um 10:19 schrieb Thierry MICHEL:
>
>>
>> And also the Note is not updated
>>
>> Later versions of this document may include additional status codes or other changes.
>>
>> change to
>>
>> Later versions of this document may include additional status codes.
>>
>> Thierry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Later versions of this document may include additional status codes or other changes.
>>
>> Le 19/10/2011 10:14, Thierry MICHEL a écrit :
>>> OOps, here is the diff file ...
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/2007/10/htmldiff?doc1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2008%2FWebVideo%2FAnnotations%2Fdrafts%2FAPI10%2FCR%2FOverview.html&doc2=http%3A%2F%2Fdev.w3.org%2F2008%2Fvideo%2Fmediaann%2Fmediaont-api-1.0%2Fmediaont-api-1.0.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Looking more into your edits
>>>
>>> You have not updated the following lines in the table
>>>
>>> 400 Bad Request syntactical error with respect to the GET method used
>>>
>>> change to
>>>
>>> 400 Bad Request syntactical error
>>>
>>> 562 Property not supported only a subset of GET methods for properties
>>> implemented
>>>
>>> change to
>>>
>>> 562 Property not supported a subset of properties implemented
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thierry.
>>>
>>> Le 19/10/2011 09:59, Thierry MICHEL a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 19/10/2011 08:30, Florian Stegmaier a écrit :
>>>>> Hi Thierry!
>>>>>
>>>>> I have reflected your edits regarding the API section into the DEV
>>>>> space:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html#api-status-codes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any further edits to do?
>>>>
>>>> I had updates the Acknowledgements
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/API10/CR/Overview.html#acknowledgements
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And Status of this document section.
>>>> And This, latest and previous versions. .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have run a diff of the two version
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/API10/CR/Overview.html
>>>>
>>>> http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The diif analysis seems wrong:
>>>> Curiously it reports diffs that are not different in the two documents
>>>> ;-((
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Florian
>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier
>>>>> Chair of Distributed Information Systems
>>>>> University of Passau
>>>>> Innstr. 43
>>>>> 94032 Passau
>>>>>
>>>>> Room 248 ITZ
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063
>>>>> Fax: +49 851 509 3062
>>>>>
>>>>> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de
>>>>> https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/
>>>>> http://twitter.com/fstegmai
>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 18.10.2011 um 14:26 schrieb Thierry MICHEL:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yves,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have discussed this issue during the MAWG telecon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These status code are not on the HTTP level, but on a layer on top of
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As these are on different layers, we have decided to remove the
>>>>>> wording and references to HTTP to avoid any confusion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Therefore the "4.7 API Status Codes" section
>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/API10/CR/Overview.html#api-status-codes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The section does not mentions HTTP nor refers to it.
>>>>>> The intro paragraph now says:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [This section introduces a set of status codes for the defined API to
>>>>>> indicate the system behavior. As described in section 4.4, the status
>>>>>> code is returned as one of the attributes of the MediaAnnotation
>>>>>> object returned by a method call to the API. These status codes are
>>>>>> used on the API level, and applied to either client side or server
>>>>>> side implementations.]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you see a coincidence between the Numerical Code and the HTTP
>>>>>> staus code, it is only a coincidence ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope that this resolution fits your comment. Let us know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thierry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 18/10/2011 11:37, Yves Lafon a écrit :
>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Oct 2011, Thierry MICHEL wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yves,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are still stuck with this HTTP status codes issue, blocking the
>>>>>>>> API
>>>>>>>> spec moving to CR.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Following your last comment
>>>>>>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2011Oct/0042.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Werner has responded to it on Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:22:34
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2011Oct/0043.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could you please give us a response has we need your approval on a
>>>>>>>> resolution to move forward.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, errors and successful responses are all tunnelled in HTTP
>>>>>>> 200, so
>>>>>>> basically you are partially reinventing SOAP (well, not even, SOAP 1.1
>>>>>>> used HTTP 500 for SOAP faults), if the group wants to keeps thing as
>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>> at least confusion should be cleared about fault codes mimicking HTTP
>>>>>>> but being used in an antithetic way to HTTP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have a Media Annotation WG telecon today at 13h00 (French time).
>>>>>>>> Zakim Bridge +1.617.761.6200, conference 6294 ("MAWG")
>>>>>>>> IRC channel: #mediaann
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could you please join this telecon to come to a resolution?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, sorry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best, Thierry.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
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