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From: Bailer, Werner <werner.bailer@joanneum.at>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:02:45 +0200
To: "mcsuarez@fi.upm.es" <mcsuarez@fi.upm.es>, "tobias@tobiasbuerger.com" <tobias@tobiasbuerger.com>
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Dear Carmen,

> In addition, I think about to extend the Media Ontology with more
> knowledge in order to obtain an ontology for representing also the
> content of a media resource. This could be very useful for applications
> that search for resources that contains particular issues.

I think we need to be careful here, as this could end in trying to model "the world". 

It is true, that it would be nice of having a way of integrating a formal description of the contents of a resource or fragment. We discussed that during the first last call round, and the conclusion was, that we would support this by referencing named graphs, once they are standardized.

Best regards,
Werner

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mari Carmen Suárez de Figueroa Baonza [mailto:mcsuarez@fi.upm.es]
> Sent: Donnerstag, 09. Juni 2011 19:35
> To: tobias@tobiasbuerger.com
> Cc: Bailer, Werner; public-media-annotation@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Minutes of MAWG Telecon
> 
> Dear Tobias,
> 
> El 08/06/2011 8:29, Tobias Bürger escribió:
> (2) With respect to the comments from Mari-Carmen about ontologies
> currently used in the Linked Data area:
> What additional vocabularies do you have in mind that not already are
> on our radar? The things I know out there use vocabularies that either
> we provided mappings for or that provided mappings to our ontology
> themselves (in case of M3O) or that use our ontology (in case of the
> EventMedia stuff). The only bigger effort in the Linked Data and
> multimedia area I am aware of that uses an ontology which is not in our
> scope is the work from BBC. They use the music ontology and other
> related vocabularies which we did not put into our scope because of
> their sole focus on audio.
> I had in mind the work from BBC; not only the Music Ontology
> Specification but also the Programmes Ontology
> (http://www.bbc.co.uk/ontologies/programmes/2009-09-07.shtml) that at
> some point is related to multimedia resources in a particular case. I
> did not know you already discussed about this issue.
> I had also in mind other vocabularies in the Linked Data area, such as
> those available here
> "http://labs.mondeca.com/dataset/lov/details/vocabularySpace_Theatre.ht
> ml".
> Maybe they are a little transverse to the Media Ontology, but I think
> it could be useful to provide how to align them.
> 
> 
> (3) With respect to the formation of a dedicated group on Linked Data +
> Multimedai:
> We discussed this already in the past. WE could not find many reasons
> which would demand a dedicated group on this topic as (a) the
> combination of Linked Data and multimedia is "just" an application case
> for multimedia; I admit a slightly more complex and maybe more
> interesting, but many key issues can be drilled down to issues with
> Linked Data (publishing, interlinking, consumption) themselves (b)
> Other issues were addressed by the fragments working group (c)
> Dedicated vocabulaires are in my point of view independent of their use
> with Linked Data
> 
> Maybe you have specific topics in mind that would demand a group which
> I do not see?
> I see your points.
> With respect to my comment during the telecon, I was just thinking on
> how the Media Ontology could be reused/extended in linked data
> applications as well as how to create (semi)automatically multimedia
> datasets according to the Media Ontology (plus others if necessary).
> In addition, I think about to extend the Media Ontology with more
> knowledge in order to obtain an ontology for representing also the
> content of a media resource. This could be very useful for applications
> that search for resources that contains particular issues.
> 
> 
> For my view on this topic and the issues I see you might want to have a
> look at the following publications:
> Thank you very much for these pointers. They look very interesting :-D.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
>         Mari Carmen.
> 
> 
> Tobias Bürger and Michael Hausenblas "Interlinking Multimedia -
> Principles and Requirements" In: Proceedings of the First International
> Workshop on Interacting with Multimedia Content on the Social Semantic
> Web, co-located with SAMT 2008, Dec, 3.-5., 2008
> 
> 
> 
> Michael Hausenblas, Raphael Troncy, Tobias Bürger, and Yves Raimond
> "Interlinking Multimedia: How to Apply Linked Data Principles to
> Multimedia Fragments" In: Proceedings of Linked Data on the Web
> (LDOW2009), co-located with the 18th International World Wide Web
> Conference (WWW2009), Madrid, Spain, 2009
> 
> Bernhard Schandl, Bernhard Haslhofer, Tobias Bürger, Andreas Langegger,
> and Wolfgang Halb "Linked Data and Multimedia: The State of Affairs"
> accepted for publication in Multimedia Tools and Applications journal,
> Special issue 'Semantic Multimedia', Springer, 2010
> 
> Jean-Pierre Evain and Tobias Bürger "Semantic Web, Linked Data, and
> Broadcasting - more in common than you'd think!" EBU Technical Review -
> 2011 Q1, 2011.
> 
> Thomas Kurz, Sebastian Schaffert and Tobias Bürger "LMF - A Framework
> for Linked Media", accepted at MMWeb2011 (forthcoming).
> 
> Looking forward to discuss more on these issues!
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Tobias
> 2011/6/7 Bailer, Werner <werner.bailer@joanneum.at>
> Dear all,
> 
> The minutes of today's telecon are at http://www.w3.org/2011/06/07-
> mediaann-minutes.html
> 
> Best regards,
> Werner
> 
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