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Re: RE : RE : multimedia metadata formats examples satus and update

From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:55:15 +0200
Message-ID: <4E283DD3.7030806@w3.org>
To: "Evain, Jean-Pierre" <evain@ebu.ch>
CC: "public-media-annotation@w3.org" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>
Jean Pierre,

just a couple of issues

IPTC:
http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html#iptc-table

- identifier : no, n.a. (use either "no" or "N/A"). no seems more 
appropriate
- collection : no (Should be N/A as the proprety is not available in IPTC
- numTracks: no (Should be N/A as the proprety is not available in IPTC

TVA
http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html#tva-table

- identifier : no, n.a. (use either "no" or "N/A"). no seems more 
appropriate
- collection :  missing info

EBUCORE
http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html#ebu-table

- identifier :	N.A (removed from RDF)(use either "no" or "N/A").

let me know what to write and I will update the doc.

Thierry



Le 21/07/2011 09:59, Evain, Jean-Pierre a écrit :
> the zipped HTML test pages for TVA and IPTC are attached.
>
> Regards,
>
> jean-Pierre
>
> ________________________________________
> De : Evain, Jean-Pierre
> Date d'envoi : jeudi, 21. juillet 2011 09:36
> À : Evain, Jean-Pierre; 'tmichel@w3.org'
> Cc : public-media-annotation@w3.org
> Objet : RE : RE : multimedia metadata formats examples satus and update
>
> Thierry,
>
> It seems the EBUCore HTML test table hasn't been updated.
>
> I also went on the test suite web page and I saw that TVA and IPTC NML2 are still marked in yellow and not in green although I provide the extended XML example and corresponding RDF addressing comments from the review.
>
> Please advise.
>
> Regards,
> Jean-pierre
>
>
> ________________________________________
> De : Evain, Jean-Pierre
> Date d'envoi : mercredi, 20. juillet 2011 16:53
> À : 'tmichel@w3.org'
> Cc : public-media-annotation@w3.org
> Objet : RE: RE : multimedia metadata formats examples satus and update
>
> Then to be clear you should say "RDF test" here
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
> Sent: mercredi, 20. juillet 2011 16:24
> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
> Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org
> Subject: RE : multimedia metadata formats examples satus and update
>
>
>
> Le 20/07/2011 16:01, Evain, Jean-Pierre a écrit :
>> Then in this case for identifier I would say "no, not applicable".
>
>
> We had agree that "N/A" is used when there is no mapping for the format.
> "yes" when the property is used in an example
> "not" when the property is not used in an example, but there is a mapping.
> In your case there is a mapping but it is not used "tested". Therefore I
> would say "no".
>>
>> I want ambiguity to be lift off as EBUCore of course could have tested identifier. It is already ambiguous enough to say 'tested' ->   against what: RDF only?
>
> If you have a better suggestion than "tested" I am open to any other
> suggestion here.
> What we must do, is fulfill our CR exit criteria which says:
>
> "For formats providing an example using only a subset of the properties
> of the core vocabulary, the missing properties will be highlighted in
> the corresponding mapping tables".
>
> Suggestions ?
>
> Thierry
>
>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Jean-Pierre
>> ________________________________________
>> De : Thierry MICHEL [tmichel@w3.org]
>> Date d'envoi : mercredi, 20. juillet 2011 15:57
>> À : Evain, Jean-Pierre
>> Cc : public-media-annotation@w3.org
>> Objet : Re: RE : RE : RE : multimedia metadata formats examples satus and update
>>
>> Le 20/07/2011 15:34, Evain, Jean-Pierre a écrit :
>>> <<<Prise de tete>>>
>>
>> ???
>>
>>
>> For clarification
>> in the mapping table
>>
>> http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html#ebu-table
>>
>>
>> I now read for "identifier"
>> N.A (removed from RDF)
>>
>> shouln't it be "no" ?
>> as there is an exact mapping, but not used (tested) in the RDF.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Voilà
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> De : Thierry MICHEL [tmichel@w3.org]
>>> Date d'envoi : mercredi, 20. juillet 2011 15:15
>>> À : Evain, Jean-Pierre
>>> Cc : public-media-annotation@w3.org
>>> Objet : Re: RE : RE : multimedia metadata formats examples satus and update
>>>
>>> Le 19/07/2011 20:37, Evain, Jean-Pierre a écrit :
>>>> The updated webpage.
>>>>
>>>> I believe I am done.
>>>
>>> Sorry but in the HTML file you have sent, the "Tested" column is empty.
>>>
>>> Thierry
>>>
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