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Re: Metadata formats examples must be valid - Updated files

From: Thierry Michel <tmichel@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:47:02 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID: <eb2e7faa62262e646e407ab7672a425e.squirrel@webmail.sophia.w3.org>
To: "Courtney Kennedy" <ckennedy@apple.com>
Cc: mcsuarez@fi.upm.es, tmichel@w3.org, public-media-annotation@w3.org
Right.

> H Mari Carmen,
>
> QuickTime and MOV are the same thing.  I believe we only need 3 tables:
> QuickTime, 3gp and MP4.
>
> Courtney
>
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Mari Carmen Suárez de Figueroa Baonza wrote:
>
>> Hi Thierry,
>>
>>    attached you can find the mapping tables for 3GP, MPEG4, and
>> QuickTime.
>>
>> I'm a quite confusing about MOV table. The examples I sent in RDF were
>> for 3GP, MPEG4, and QuickTime (based on Courtney input), so I'm not sure
>> how to proceed with MOV (for me it was the same as QuickTime, but maybe
>> this is not).
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>        Mari Carmen.
>>
>> PD: Please consider that I will be away from my email until beginning of
>> September; so, any new input required from my side will be sent on the
>> first weeks of September.
>>
>> El 15/08/2011 16:30, Thierry MICHEL escribió:
>>> Hi Marie Carmen,
>>>
>>> I have published all your RDF and TTL files.
>>> These are now linked from the testsuite.
>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/testsuite.html
>>>
>>> Could you please also send me the 4 mapping tables updated (attached)
>>>
>>> See the guidelines:
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/Guidelines_for_ontology_examples.html#3-Mapping_table_update
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Thierry
>>>
>>> Le 11/08/2011 18:46, Mari Carmen Suárez de Figueroa Baonza a écrit :
>>>> Hi Thierry,
>>>>
>>>> from my part I think the files I sent to you on 9th August are final;
>>>> unless Courtney have any comment (specially with respect to the
>>>> location
>>>> information).
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if any other action is required from my side with
>>>> respect to the sample files.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Mari Carmen.
>>>>
>>>> El 11/08/2011 16:19, Thierry Michel escribió:
>>>>> Hi Marie Carmen,
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know when the RDF and TTL files for 3gp, mp4 and mov examples
>>>>> are final and I will publish it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thierry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 09/08/2011 14:12, Mari Carmen Suárez de Figueroa Baonza a écrit :
>>>>>> Hi Thierry,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thank you very much for your response.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I made the improvements in the three formats (QuickTime, 3GP, and
>>>>>> MP4)
>>>>>> and attached you can find both the rdf files and the ttl files for
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> formats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have any comment, don't hesitate to contact me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mari Carmen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> El 05/08/2011 15:58, Thierry MICHEL escribió:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 05/08/2011 14:34, Mari Carmen Suárez de Figueroa Baonza a écrit
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>> Hi Courtney and Thierry,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was working in the improvements of example file for QuickTime.
>>>>>>>> Attached you can find the new rdf file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Courtney, could you please check whether I have transformed in a
>>>>>>>> correct
>>>>>>>> way the information about location (I don't know the ISO standard
>>>>>>>> used).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thierry, I'm not sure how to include in the file those information
>>>>>>>> represented in the Media Ontology as object property in which the
>>>>>>>> range
>>>>>>>> is not provided in the ontology (e.g., hasKeywords, hasGenre,
>>>>>>>> hasCompression, hasFormat). There are different ways to proceed,
>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>> would like if there are already examples that includes this
>>>>>>>> information;
>>>>>>>> if so, I will follow that way (in order to have homogeneity in the
>>>>>>>> examples files).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please take a look at other RDF examples from the Test suite (the
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> marked in green as these are valid files against our guidelines.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> like;
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/DC_example1.rdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/EBUCoreXML_ITM528229_extended.owl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/mpeg7_example.owl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/smpte_example.owl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/EBUNML2XML_2_MaOntRDF_ITM528228_extended.owl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/DougExample_webm.rdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ect ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you very much in advance. Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mari Carmen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> El 19/07/2011 5:41, Courtney Kennedy escribió:
>>>>>>>>> Hello Mari Carmen,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is an updated spreadsheet with the additional fields you
>>>>>>>>> asked
>>>>>>>>> for below:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you again for converting this information into RDF.
>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Courtney
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2011, at 3:09 AM, Mari Carmen Suárez de Figueroa
>>>>>>>>> Baonza
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Courtney,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> as you probably know, the samples files for QuickTime, 3GP, and
>>>>>>>>>> MP4
>>>>>>>>>> should be improved (based on comments provided after the F2F).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm doing these improvements, however I have a pair of doubts in
>>>>>>>>>> which you could help me:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - QuickTime file:
>>>>>>>>>> * could you please provide me with the data related to
>>>>>>>>>> 'compression',
>>>>>>>>>> 'format', 'samplingRate', and 'numTrack' for that video?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - 3GP file:
>>>>>>>>>> * could you please provide me with the data related to
>>>>>>>>>> 'compression',
>>>>>>>>>> 'format', and 'numTrack' for that video?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - MP4 file:
>>>>>>>>>> * could you please provide me with the data related to
>>>>>>>>>> 'compression',
>>>>>>>>>> 'format', and 'numTrack' for that video?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much in advance. Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mari Carmen.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> El 20/06/2011 18:35, Courtney Kennedy escribió:
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Mari Carmen,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for doing this.
>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Courtney
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Mari Carmen Suárez de Figueroa
>>>>>>>>>>> Baonza
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Thierry and Courtney,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> attached you can find the RDF and TTL files for 3gp, mp4 and
>>>>>>>>>>>> mov
>>>>>>>>>>>> examples. I have checked them using
>>>>>>>>>>>> "http://www.w3.org/RDF/Validator/" and
>>>>>>>>>>>> "http://www.rdfabout.com/demo/validator/".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please if you find any other error, let me know it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mari Carmen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> El 16/06/2011 11:46, Thierry MICHEL escribió:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Courtney,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes indeed the RDF files for 3gp, mp4 and mov files are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> valid.(see screenshot attached)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> These are the rdf files from Mari Carmen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thierry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 16/06/2011 00:31, Courtney Kennedy a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Thierry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the rdf for 3gp, mp4 and mov files are showing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors on the link below. Did you get the rdf files from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mari
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carmen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Courtney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Thierry MICHEL wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your imput for the Testsuite for the Ontology
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Media Resources 1.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/testsuite.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been looking at the metadata formats examples
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> associated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the associated RDF/OWL file for correspondence with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> core properties.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here are my remarks:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1- For some examples, the XML file does not validate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XML validation (well formed document)[1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> XML documents MUST be well formed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2- Most of the RDF files do not validate against the RDF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> validator [2]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> RDF documents MUST be valid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3- For some RDF file the URL of the corresponding example
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are wrong:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rdf:Description rdf:about= ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xml:base="...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> Please make sure the corresponding URL are right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please review your contribution and make sure the 3 above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requirements are fulfilled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We will be looking at these files during the next MAWG F2F
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERCIM/Sophia. Therefore please provide valid documents
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this event 28/29 june.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thierry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Courtney Kennedy 408.974.3386, mobile: 408.771.8615
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Engineering Manager, Media Formats
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Mari Carmen Suárez-Figueroa
>>>>>>>>>>>> Teaching Assistant
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ontology Engineering Group (OEG)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Departamento de Inteligencia Artificial
>>>>>>>>>>>> Facultad de Informática
>>>>>>>>>>>> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
>>>>>>>>>>>> Campus de Montegancedo, s/n
>>>>>>>>>>>> Boadilla del Monte - 28660 Madrid
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: (+34) 91 336 36 72
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: (+34) 91 352 48 19
>>>>>>>>>>>> e-mail: mcsuarez@fi.upm.es
>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 3205
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mp4-Example-v2.rdf><3gp-Example.v2.ttl><mov-Example-v2.ttl><mp4-Example-v2.ttl><3gp-Example-v2.rdf><mov-Example-v2.rdf>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> Courtney Kennedy 408.974.3386, mobile: 408.771.8615
>>>>>>>>>>> Engineering Manager, Media Formats
>>>>>>>>>>> Apple, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Mari Carmen Suárez-Figueroa
>>>>>>>>>> Teaching Assistant
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ontology Engineering Group (OEG)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Departamento de Inteligencia Artificial
>>>>>>>>>> Facultad de Informática
>>>>>>>>>> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
>>>>>>>>>> Campus de Montegancedo, s/n
>>>>>>>>>> Boadilla del Monte - 28660 Madrid
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Phone: (+34) 91 336 36 72
>>>>>>>>>> Fax: (+34) 91 352 48 19
>>>>>>>>>> e-mail: mcsuarez@fi.upm.es
>>>>>>>>>> Office: 3205
>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Courtney Kennedy 408.974.3386, mobile: 408.771.8615
>>>>>>>>> Engineering Manager, Media Formats and Export
>>>>>>>>> Apple, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> Dr. Mari Carmen Suárez-Figueroa
>> Teaching Assistant
>>
>> Ontology Engineering Group (OEG)
>>
>> Departamento de Inteligencia Artificial
>> Facultad de Informática
>> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
>> Campus de Montegancedo, s/n
>> Boadilla del Monte - 28660 Madrid
>>
>> Phone: (+34) 91 336 36 72
>> Fax: (+34) 91 352 48 19
>> e-mail: mcsuarez@fi.upm.es
>> Office: 3205
>> ----------------------------------------------
>>
>> <container-3GP-Updated.htm><container-MPEG4-Updated.htm><Quicktime-Updated.htm>
>
>
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