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RE: Latest FOAF version?

From: Evain, Jean-Pierre <evain@ebu.ch>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:36:49 +0200
To: 'Yves Raimond' <yves.raimond@gmail.com>
CC: Tobias Bürger <tobias.buerger@salzburgresearch.at>, "public-media-annotation@w3.org" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>
Message-ID: <7D1656F54141C042A1B2556AE5237D60010CEEB7F252@GVAMAIL.gva.ebu.ch>
I thought the issues I raised looked pretty serious to me and if you open the rdf you will see immediately to which properties it applies...

As I said, MWAG should/could make a profile of it to replace our agent by FOAF's agent and get rd of most of these problems. 

Regards, JP

-----Original Message-----
From: Yves Raimond [mailto:yves.raimond@gmail.com] 
Sent: lundi, 20. septembre 2010 17:20
To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
Cc: Tobias Bürger; public-media-annotation@w3.org
Subject: Re: Latest FOAF version?

What? Can you be more specific? Where do you see a property with a
range of both a resource and a literal? And where do you see a 'class
Class' (or are you referring to rdfs:Class? In that case, that's not
really specific to FOAF...)

If you could make a *specific* list, it would be great to feed that
back to the FOAF mailing list.

y

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Evain, Jean-Pierre <evain@ebu.ch> wrote:
> I can also see reasons why you would duplicates some properties as object and data properties (e..g pointing to a concept or a literal) but this doesn't seem to be justified here...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-media-annotation-request@w3.org [mailto:public-media-annotation-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Evain, Jean-Pierre
> Sent: lundi, 20. septembre 2010 17:11
> To: 'Yves Raimond'
> Cc: Tobias Bürger; public-media-annotation@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Latest FOAF version?
>
> Can you tell me the purpose of a class class for instance?
>
> Most properties have thing for domain and range?
>
> Many object properties would seem to be more realistically data properties as not linking classes?
>
> ....
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yves Raimond [mailto:yves.raimond@gmail.com]
> Sent: lundi, 20. septembre 2010 17:06
> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
> Cc: Tobias Bürger; public-media-annotation@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Latest FOAF version?
>
> I honestly don't see what strikes you as bad in this vocabulary?
> (apart from maybe the under_score vs. camelCase)
>
> Do you have a more specific list?
>
> y
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Evain, Jean-Pierre <evain@ebu.ch> wrote:
>> Look at my other message. I am astounded by what is really behind it.  This is without referring to some battles around the mapping to DC...
>>
>> - properties linking things to things
>> - duplicates inc. with different writing conventions...
>>
>> A long list of curious things there.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Yves Raimond [mailto:yves.raimond@gmail.com]
>> Sent: lundi, 20. septembre 2010 16:36
>> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
>> Cc: Tobias Bürger; public-media-annotation@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: Latest FOAF version?
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Evain, Jean-Pierre <evain@ebu.ch> wrote:
>>> Thanks Tobias.
>>>
>>> Yes, hopefully. No annotation giving a reference to the version and the namespace is still 0.1 ;-)
>>
>> Well, they can't really change anymore, without breaking all their
>> URIs... And 'cool URIs don't change'. I remember Dan Brickley saying
>> that FOAF is stuck to version 0.1 for life now :)
>>
>> A good reason to only use versioned URIs for information resources :)
>>
>> Best,
>> y
>>
>>>
>>> I'll look at that one.
>>>
>>> Regards, JP
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tobias Bürger [mailto:tobias.buerger@salzburgresearch.at]
>>> Sent: lundi, 20. septembre 2010 11:22
>>> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre
>>> Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org
>>> Subject: Re: Latest FOAF version?
>>>
>>>  Should be here: http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/20100809.rdf
>>>
>>> Am 20.09.2010 11:16, schrieb Evain, Jean-Pierre:
>>>> I found .98 but would like the .rdf
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: public-media-annotation-request@w3.org [mailto:public-media-annotation-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Evain, Jean-Pierre
>>>> Sent: lundi, 20. septembre 2010 11:13
>>>> To: public-media-annotation@w3.org
>>>> Subject: Latest FOAF version?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone who can point me to the latest version of FOAF.
>>>>
>>>> Can't access the technical documentation from the foaf-project page.
>>>>
>>>> Version 0.9 seems to have most recent changes dating 2007??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>> Jean-pierre
>>>>
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