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RE: Checked draft of Ontology for Media Resource 1.0

From: 이원석 <wslee@etri.re.kr>
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:53:53 +0900
Message-ID: <B4EAD1122C31304099A5CDEA5447210F01908F8A@email2>
To: "Thierry Michel" <tmichel@w3.org>
Cc: "Evain, Jean-Pierre" <evain@ebu.ch>, "Media Annotation" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>
Hi Thierry.
Thank you so much for your help :)

Best regards,
wonsuk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thierry Michel [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:48 PM
> To: 이원석
> Cc: Evain, Jean-Pierre; Media Annotation
> Subject: Re: Checked draft of Ontology for Media Resource 1.0
> 
> 
> Wonsuk,Jean Pierre;
> 
> I have updated the mapping table
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/m
> apping_table.htm
> 
> It now incorporates the content highlighted in yellow from your MS Word
> file.
> 
> Thierry.
> 
> 
> 이원석 wrote:
> > Hi. Jean-Pierre.
> > Thanks you for the comments.
> >
> > Now I cannot access and revise the HTML files in the location of
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/
> by my CVS account.
> >
> > So I temporally made the MS Word file for making clear your comments.
> > Please find the enclosed file that have revised table according to your
> request by email.
> > I marked the revised parts by yellow color. Please check it up.
> > If you find something is wrong, just fix in MS word and send that to
> me :)
> >
> > I will revise the HTML version of mapping table according to this file
> after fixed my problem.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > wonsuk
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Evain, Jean-Pierre [mailto:evain@ebu.ch]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:43 PM
> >> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre; Thierry Michel; 이원석
> >> Cc: Media Annotation
> >> Subject: RE: Checked draft of Ontology for Media Resource 1.0
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> By the way,
> >>
> >> * CopyrightNotice also has a mapping into NewsML-G2's
> >> RighstInfo/CopyrightNotice
> >> * as well for TargetedAudience with ContentMeta/Audience or
> /exclAudience
> >> * and locator with ContentSet / RemoteContent / AltLoc
> >>
> >> Please update the table.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Jean-Pierre
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: public-media-annotation-request@w3.org [mailto:public-media-
> >> annotation-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Evain, Jean-Pierre
> >> Sent: mercredi, 10. juin 2009 14:22
> >> To: Thierry Michel; ???
> >> Cc: Media Annotation
> >> Subject: RE: Checked draft of Ontology for Media Resource 1.0
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I have been going through the latest version:
> >>
> >> Here are my comments about the TVA and EBUCore mappings mainly about
> >> attributes, which were added under the new ma: namespace:
> >>
> >> * EBUCore has a mapping to copyright through the DC:Rights element
> >> * both TVA and EBUCore have a mapping to TargetAUdience through
> TVA:genre
> >> and EBUCore:type
> >> * TVA maps to Locator via the ProgramID, etc using CRIDs (Content
> >> Reference
> >> identifiers) as well as EBUCore in Format:Location (BTW, as EBU asked
> for
> >> locator you would have expected this ;-)
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for updating the mapping table
> >>
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/m
> >> ap
> >> ping_table.htm
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Jean-pierre
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: public-media-annotation-request@w3.org [mailto:public-media-
> >> annotation-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Thierry Michel
> >> Sent: mercredi, 10. juin 2009 11:53
> >> To: 이원석
> >> Cc: Media Annotation
> >> Subject: Re: Checked draft of Ontology for Media Resource 1.0
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Wonsuk,
> >>
> >>
> >> I have cleaned the mapping_table file
> >>
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/m
> >> ap
> >> ping_table.htm
> >> now still remains 40 HTML Errors (there was 648 HTML errors initially)
> >>
> >> see validator report:
> >>
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotati
> >> on
> >> s/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/mapping_table.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> The issues that are remaining are content issue.
> >>
> >> You are putting markup like
> >> <app_data app="”MOD”" name="”Actors”" value="”Willis,Bruce”/">
> >>
> >> into a <p> element. And that is not possible.
> >> Therefore you are loosing your content which does not display in the
> >> HTML browser.
> >>
> >>
> >> for example in the "Cablelabs1.1" table, in the "Type" column, the code
> is:
> >>
> >>
> >> <td class="ce108" style="text-align: left; width: 8.391cm;">
> >> <p>String (max 35 characters per actor), one actor per element. ~~~
> >> Examples: ~~~
> >> <app_data app="”MOD”" name="”Actors”" value="”Willis,Bruce”/"> ~~~
> >> <app_data app="”MOD”" name="”Actors”" value="”Gere,Richard”/">
> >> ~~~</app_data></app_data></p>
> >> </td>
> >>
> >>
> >> Only the following displays in the Browser:
> >>
> >> String (max 35 characters per actor), one actor per element. ~~~
> >> Examples: ~~~  ~~~  ~~~
> >>
> >> where in the XLS file the text displays correctly as :
> >>
> >> String (max 35 characters per actor), one actor per element. ~~~
> >> Examples: ~~~ <App_Data App=”MOD” Name=”Actors” Value=”Willis,Bruce”/>
> >> ~~~ <App_Data App=”MOD” Name=”Actors” Value=”Gere,Richard”/> ~~~
> >>
> >>
> >> One solution is to escape brackets with &lt; and &gt;
> >>
> >> Please fix the document from
> >>
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/m
> >> ap
> >> ping_table.htm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Thierry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thierry Michel wrote:
> >>> 이원석 wrote:
> >>>> Hi. Thierry.
> >>>> Thank you for fast response.
> >>>>
> >>>> Diff file is not for the publication. So we don't need to do anything.
> >>> Right.
> >>>
> >>>> Concerning mapping table, could you handle this for publication?
> >>>> If that is not possible, could you guide me how to fix this?
> >>>
> >>> I am not sure how we can resolve it. The mapping_table.htm is produced
> >>> automatically from an XLS file with a tool (MS Office or Open Office)
> >>>
> >>> But it produces ugly HTML.;-(((
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> There was 648 HTML Errors ....
> >>> I have fixed a bunch
> >>> now still remains 510 Errors to be fixed.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately this must be done by hand.
> >>> we can try a tool called HTML TIDY
> >>> to Clean up Web pages.
> >>>
> >>> the document to clean is at
> >>>
> >>
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/m
> >> ap
> >> ping_table.htm
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I am afraid that we need to this work whenever we need to publish
> >> ontology doc.
> >>>> Because WG have to maintain and improve the mapping table through the
> >> excel file format.
> >>>> So even though it's not now, I would like to find good solution for
> >> this
> >> work.
> >>> the solution is, from now on we will maintain the HTML version not the
> >> XLS.
> >>> Thierry
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> wonsuk
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Thierry Michel [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:20 PM
> >>>>> To: 이원석
> >>>>> Cc: Media Annotation
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Cheked draft of Ontology for Media Resource 1.0
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For validation purposes, I have copied the 3 documents in our WG
> space
> >>>>>
> >>
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/
> >>>>> - Overview.html
> >>>>> - mapping_table.htm
> >>>>> - htmldiff.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now checking the 3 documents:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1- Ontology for Media Resource 1.0
> >>>>>
> >>
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/O
> >>>>> verview.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1a- checked as XHTML 1.0 Transitional: OK
> >>>>> 1b- checked CSS Validation :OK
> >>>>> 1c- checked Broken links: OK
> >>>>> 1D- checked Pubrules OK
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This document is ready for publication
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -------------------
> >>>>> 2- Mapping Table
> >>>>>
> >>
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/m
> >>>>> apping_table.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2a- checked HTML validation: Not Good: There are a lot of validation
> >>>>> issues. Must be fixed before publication. See report at
> >>>>>
> >>
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotati
> >>>>> ons/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/mapping_table.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2b- checked CSS Validation :Not Good: There are a lot of validation
> >>>>> issues. Must be fixed before publication. See report at
> >>>>> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-
> >>>>>
> >>
> validator/validator?uri=http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts
> >>>>> /ontology10/FirstDraft/mapping_table.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2c- checked Broken links:
> >>>>> I have fixed the broken links. Now OK.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -------------------
> >>>>> 3- Diff file
> >>>>>
> >>
> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/h
> >>>>> tmldiff.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 3a- checked as XHTML 1.0 Transitional: OK
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 3b- checked CSS Validation : Not Good: There are a lot of validation
> >>>>> issues. Must be fixed before publication. See report at
> >>>>> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-
> >>>>>
> >>
> validator/validator?uri=http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts
> >>>>> /ontology10/FirstDraft/htmldiff.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 3c- checked Broken links:
> >>>>> I have fixed the broken links. Now OK.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The mapping_table.htm must be fixed before publication. The
> Webmaster
> >>>>> will refuse documents that do not validate HTML and CSS.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The diff file (htmldiff.htm) does not need to be published in TR
> space,
> >>>>> as I don't think there are links to it. Is there ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thierry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 이원석 wrote:
> >>>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [1] is the revised draft of Ontology for Media Resource 1.0
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Veronique applied comments from Veronique to this doc. J  Veronique
> >> will
> >>>>>> briefly explain about this in today’s call.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I hope that [1] could be the final draft of Ontology for Media
> >> Resource
> >>>>>> 1.0 for the first publication.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [3] is diff result btw old doc [2] and new doc [1].
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [4] is the revised Mapping Table. Concerning this, I added XMP
> column
> >> to
> >>>>>> summary table. In addition I added descriptions for
> ma:targetAudience
> >>>>>> and ma:locator to all tables of this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Feel free.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you have any comments, please let me know.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> it’s really more than welcome. but it could be applied later. ;)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [1] http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-
> >> 1.0.html
> >>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-
> >>>>> 1.0/mediaont-1.0.html?rev=1.11&content-
> type=text/html;%20charset=utf-
> >> 8#tbd
> >>>>>> <http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-
> >>>>> 1.0/mediaont-1.0.html?rev=1.11&content-
> type=text/html;%20charset=utf-
> >>>>> 8#tbd>
> >>>>>> [3] http://tinyurl.com/m4vlrj
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [4] http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-
> >> 1.0/mapping_table.htm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Wonsuk
> >>>>>>
> >>
> >>
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