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RE: Checked draft of Ontology for Media Resource 1.0

From: Evain, Jean-Pierre <evain@ebu.ch>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:43:54 +0200
Message-ID: <14AE8514098875488F9FEACD90C747A22779C6@gnvasmail1a.gva.ebu.ch>
To: "Evain, Jean-Pierre" <evain@ebu.ch>, "Thierry Michel" <tmichel@w3.org>, "???" <wslee@etri.re.kr>
Cc: "Media Annotation" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>
Dear all,

A final comment: why do we have all the ontologies, which were not part of
the challenged subset selected during our process?

Best regards,

Jean-Pierre

-----Original Message-----
From: public-media-annotation-request@w3.org [mailto:public-media-
annotation-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Evain, Jean-Pierre
Sent: mercredi, 10. juin 2009 14:22
To: Thierry Michel; ???
Cc: Media Annotation
Subject: RE: Checked draft of Ontology for Media Resource 1.0

Dear all,

I have been going through the latest version:

Here are my comments about the TVA and EBUCore mappings mainly about
attributes, which were added under the new ma: namespace:

* EBUCore has a mapping to copyright through the DC:Rights element
* both TVA and EBUCore have a mapping to TargetAUdience through TVA:genre
and EBUCore:type
* TVA maps to Locator via the ProgramID, etc using CRIDs (Content Reference
identifiers) as well as EBUCore in Format:Location (BTW, as EBU asked for
locator you would have expected this ;-)

Thanks in advance for updating the mapping table
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/map
ping_table.htm

Best regards,

Jean-pierre
-----Original Message-----
From: public-media-annotation-request@w3.org [mailto:public-media-
annotation-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Thierry Michel
Sent: mercredi, 10. juin 2009 11:53
To: 이원석
Cc: Media Annotation
Subject: Re: Checked draft of Ontology for Media Resource 1.0



Hi Wonsuk,


I have cleaned the mapping_table file
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/map
ping_table.htm
now still remains 40 HTML Errors (there was 648 HTML errors initially)

see validator report:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotation
s/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/mapping_table.htm


The issues that are remaining are content issue.

You are putting markup like
<app_data app="”MOD”" name="”Actors”" value="”Willis,Bruce”/">

into a <p> element. And that is not possible.
Therefore you are loosing your content which does not display in the
HTML browser.


for example in the "Cablelabs1.1" table, in the "Type" column, the code is:


<td class="ce108" style="text-align: left; width: 8.391cm;">
<p>String (max 35 characters per actor), one actor per element. ~~~
Examples: ~~~
<app_data app="”MOD”" name="”Actors”" value="”Willis,Bruce”/"> ~~~
<app_data app="”MOD”" name="”Actors”" value="”Gere,Richard”/">
~~~</app_data></app_data></p>
</td>


Only the following displays in the Browser:

String (max 35 characters per actor), one actor per element. ~~~
Examples: ~~~  ~~~  ~~~

where in the XLS file the text displays correctly as :

String (max 35 characters per actor), one actor per element. ~~~
Examples: ~~~ <App_Data App=”MOD” Name=”Actors” Value=”Willis,Bruce”/>
~~~ <App_Data App=”MOD” Name=”Actors” Value=”Gere,Richard”/> ~~~


One solution is to escape brackets with &lt; and &gt;

Please fix the document from
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/map
ping_table.htm



Best regards,
Thierry






Thierry Michel wrote:
> 
> 이원석 wrote:
>> Hi. Thierry.
>> Thank you for fast response.
>>
>> Diff file is not for the publication. So we don't need to do anything.
> Right.
> 
>> Concerning mapping table, could you handle this for publication?
>> If that is not possible, could you guide me how to fix this?
> 
> 
> I am not sure how we can resolve it. The mapping_table.htm is produced
> automatically from an XLS file with a tool (MS Office or Open Office)
> 
> But it produces ugly HTML.;-(((
> 
> 
> There was 648 HTML Errors ....
> I have fixed a bunch
> now still remains 510 Errors to be fixed.
> 
> Unfortunately this must be done by hand.
> we can try a tool called HTML TIDY
> to Clean up Web pages.
> 
> the document to clean is at
>
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/map
ping_table.htm
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> I am afraid that we need to this work whenever we need to publish
ontology doc.
>> Because WG have to maintain and improve the mapping table through the
excel file format.
>> So even though it's not now, I would like to find good solution for this
work.
> 
> the solution is, from now on we will maintain the HTML version not the
XLS.
> 
> Thierry
> 
> 
>> 	
>> Best regards,
>> wonsuk
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Thierry Michel [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:20 PM
>>> To: 이원석
>>> Cc: Media Annotation
>>> Subject: Re: Cheked draft of Ontology for Media Resource 1.0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For validation purposes, I have copied the 3 documents in our WG space
>>>
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/
>>> - Overview.html
>>> - mapping_table.htm
>>> - htmldiff.htm
>>>
>>> Now checking the 3 documents:
>>>
>>> 1- Ontology for Media Resource 1.0
>>>
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/O
>>> verview.html
>>>
>>> 1a- checked as XHTML 1.0 Transitional: OK
>>> 1b- checked CSS Validation :OK
>>> 1c- checked Broken links: OK
>>> 1D- checked Pubrules OK
>>>
>>> This document is ready for publication
>>>
>>> -------------------
>>> 2- Mapping Table
>>>
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/m
>>> apping_table.htm
>>>
>>> 2a- checked HTML validation: Not Good: There are a lot of validation
>>> issues. Must be fixed before publication. See report at
>>>
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotati
>>> ons/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/mapping_table.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> 2b- checked CSS Validation :Not Good: There are a lot of validation
>>> issues. Must be fixed before publication. See report at
>>> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-
>>>
validator/validator?uri=http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts
>>> /ontology10/FirstDraft/mapping_table.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> 2c- checked Broken links:
>>> I have fixed the broken links. Now OK.
>>>
>>> -------------------
>>> 3- Diff file
>>>
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/FirstDraft/h
>>> tmldiff.htm
>>>
>>> 3a- checked as XHTML 1.0 Transitional: OK
>>>
>>> 3b- checked CSS Validation : Not Good: There are a lot of validation
>>> issues. Must be fixed before publication. See report at
>>> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-
>>>
validator/validator?uri=http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts
>>> /ontology10/FirstDraft/htmldiff.htm
>>>
>>> 3c- checked Broken links:
>>> I have fixed the broken links. Now OK.
>>>
>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>> The mapping_table.htm must be fixed before publication. The Webmaster
>>> will refuse documents that do not validate HTML and CSS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The diff file (htmldiff.htm) does not need to be published in TR space,
>>> as I don't think there are links to it. Is there ?
>>>
>>> Thierry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 이원석 wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] is the revised draft of Ontology for Media Resource 1.0
>>>>
>>>> Veronique applied comments from Veronique to this doc. J  Veronique
will
>>>> briefly explain about this in today’s call.
>>>>
>>>> I hope that [1] could be the final draft of Ontology for Media Resource
>>>> 1.0 for the first publication.
>>>>
>>>> [3] is diff result btw old doc [2] and new doc [1].
>>>>
>>>> [4] is the revised Mapping Table. Concerning this, I added XMP column
to
>>>> summary table. In addition I added descriptions for ma:targetAudience
>>>> and ma:locator to all tables of this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Feel free.
>>>>
>>>> If you have any comments, please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> it’s really more than welcome. but it could be applied later. ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-
1.0.html
>>>>
>>>> [2]
>>>> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-
>>> 1.0/mediaont-1.0.html?rev=1.11&content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-
8#tbd
>>>> <http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-
>>> 1.0/mediaont-1.0.html?rev=1.11&content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-
>>> 8#tbd>
>>>> [3] http://tinyurl.com/m4vlrj
>>>>
>>>> [4] http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-
1.0/mapping_table.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Wonsuk
>>>>
> 




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