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Re: call for comments on publishing task models spec

From: Jaroslav Pullmann <jaroslav.pullmann@fit.fraunhofer.de>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 01:19:41 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID: <37156.>
To: public-mbui@w3.org

 Dear colleagues,

  the Task Model related terms (CTT, User task etc.) have been updated
 in the glossary, though the definitions (esp. "task category" and "task
 type") should be revised by ISTI-CNR. I'd suggest to refrain from
 singular CTT operators and task types into the glossary and rather to
 some within the respective definitions. In this particular case having them
 side by side in the specification seems to really ease the comparision and

 Regarding the "MBUI - Task Models" draft I'd suggest to introduce a
 header on operators (beneath section 3 Meta-Model) and to provide
 examples of the CTT notation for termporal operators (compare table 2. of

 Because of vacation and travelling I will not be able to attend the telcon
 on next Thursday (19th July).

  Best regards

  [1]  http://giove.isti.cnr.it/attachments/publications/2003-A1-07.pdf

> Many thanks for your comments. I have attempted to address them, so
> please reload the document in your browser.
>     http://www.w3.org/2011/mbui/drafts/task-models/
> Note that I have attempted to adjust the grammar and wording to improve
> readability, but there has been no substantive changes. I have
> introduced CTT as an abbreviation for ConcurTaskTrees and used the abbr
> element for all instances of CTT - hover the mouse over CTT to see the
> expansion.
> We need to publish the task model specification as soon as possible as
> we are very late in publishing our first working draft. This will only
> be a First Public Working Draft, and we will have time to make further
> changes as we head for a stable document and the Last Call Working
> Draft. We should publish the introductory note and the glossary as soon
> as they are considered ready, but W3C Management would not want us to
> delay publishing the Task Model spec for that.
> On 17/07/12 13:17, Ignacio Marin wrote:
>> Here we come with CTIC's comments. Most of them are wording and
>> aesthetic
>> issues.
>> - Perhaps the document should refer to the "Introduction" and "Glossary"
>> WG
>> Note. We should consider whether to make sure that some of the concepts
>> mentioned in the document are described in the glossary. If so, we may
>> review the document looking for unreferenced terms. One example is
>> Concurrent Task Trees. Although it is defined in the document, perhaps
>> it
>> should also be mentioned in the glossary.
>> - The table should have a title preceded by "Table 1"
>> - With regard to Concurrent Task Trees, the terms is mentioned as
>> ConcurTaskTrees and CTT without any relationship established between the
>> three terms.
>> - Introduction:
>>     - There are three sentences in a row starting with "Task models".
>> Maybe
>> they should be in a single paragraph and use connectors to avoid the
>> repetition.
>>     - The third sentence in broken after a comma.
>>     - The last sentence ("The initial proposal is based on the widely
>> known, and internationally adopted ConcurTaskTrees notation, further
>> improvements can be added, if useful.") perhaps should be "The initial
>> proposal is based on the widely adopted ConcurTaskTrees notation.
>> Further
>> variations to this notation may be added in the future, if useful."
>> - The fourth, fifth and sixth paragraphs after Table 1 may be more
>> legible
>> by using bullets instead of writing in a single paragraph with a lot of
>> text between brackets. For instance, the XML Schema Definition section
>> uses
>> bullets to enumerate and it seems more readable to us.
>> - The sentence "A precondition (which can occur...") starting the third
>> paragraph after Figure 1 is hard to read. A try to improve the wording:
>> "A
>> precondition is an instance of the ConditionGroup class, which contains
>> a
>> number of operands and an operator. It can occur or not, associated to a
>> specific task, as suggested by the 0..1 multiplicity in Figure 1"
>> - Most of the occurrences of the adjective "following" are not
>> accompanied
>> by a name.
>> Our main concern is that the main audience for W3C technical documents
>> (perhaps, web developers, although we have stated that MBUI applies to
>> other technological spaces) may feel confused when reading this
>> document,
>> if it is released before the Introduction and Glossary documents. In our
>> opinion, it is also important to use an example to guide developers
>> through
>> the whole  MBUI process. Maybe reusing the car rental example in all our
>> documents (mainly, Task Models and Abstract UI) in a consistent way
>> would
>> be important.
>> Best regards,
>> Cristina, Javier and Nacho
> --
> Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org> http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett

Jaroslav Pullmann
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