[math-on-web] meeting minutes, 2017/02/02

Hi everyone,

Below are the minutes from the last meeting

Best,
Peter.

# Math On Web CG 2017/02/02

Present: John, Kevin, Charles, Volker, Peter, Daniel

* round robin: current plans and priorities

  * Peter: continuing my experiments with deep labels
    * testing, lots of failure (running into typical accessible name
calculation issues, cf James Teh blog post), but also new ideas from there
    * Charles:  aria-labels on mathml?
      * Peter: Yes. But goal is identifying programmatic approach (e.g.,
speech-rule-engine attaching its output as labels)

  * Volker: working with Benetech on improvements, Mozilla funding for
Clearspeak
    * but also MathJax v3.0 revamp of internal model
    * a bit like 'finding the "optimal" math json format'

* Charles:

    * Benetech work with Volker on 2dim structures (Equation arrays,
complex layout, reading it well etc)
    * epub accessibility certification work
      * coming up with 5/6 different variations of putting it in there
      * eg. image with alt, aria-details, aria-describedby with hidden
MathML etc
      * creating epub samples with variations
      * testing via DAISY evaluation
      * developing guidelines
    * if there's interest, we can share this

* Daniel:
  * general comment: should clarify if we're talking current state of
mathematics (images+alttext etc) but we should also talk about the future
    * and be clear about when we mean which
  * priority for me: future of math display
    * I'm interested in "static" rendering in HTML5: one output, that works
on all devices
    * we probably need web standards that need changing
      * e.g., stretchy chars
  * future of math accessibility
    * tests with ChromeVox, NVDA on Edge ok
    * VoiceOver fails badly for me
      * Volker: curious: which browser? [iOS, i.e., Safari]
    * I don't think a11y should be responsibility of the AT but part of the
content
    * since mathml is limited, we cannot expect good results from AT
      * Peter: interested in layout, too. Just no time.

  * Kevin: writing an ebook, interested in accessibility and what Charles
said
    * Charles: will send out samples
      * Peter: is there documentation?
        * Charles: the markup in the book.

* Peter: a11y task force scheduling: Charles and Jason likely can't make
that time
  *  maybe keep next meeting and try later time for one after?
    * maybe not worth it since Volker & Charles will be traveling to CSUN
  * => keep next two meetings as is & identify alternative time