Re: Collection of examples suggestion

If I'm understanding correctly what Daniel's talking about, there should be
at least 3 MathJax examples, one for each of important output jax:
CommonHTML (which I think is the most useful), HTML-CSS, and SVG, possibly
NativeMML and PreviewHTML as well.

My only concern is whether each example should follow a fixed template or
> how they should be sort out.
>

Suggestion: fixed template, one basic example and one advanced one, like:
http://jsbin.com/mofuqo/edit?html,output

The basic example is the quadratic formula, obviously; I believe it works
well in pretty much every web math renderer, images or HTML. I believe the
advanced example (from here <https://www.w3.org/TR/arabic-math/#Comparison>)
works well in KaTeX, works well with the 3 important MathJax output jax
(CommonHTML, HTML-CSS, SVG), is displayed but looks bad/has minor rendering
bugs with PreviewHTML or with NativeMML in Safari, and doesn't work at all
in MathQuill.

*Peter:* can multiple different MathJax output jax be used on the same
page? Its configuration is uh, very global, and there's no
.noConflict()-like API as far as I can find.

If at all possible I'd love to have all these samples on the same page to
simplify side-by-side comparison, which is straightforward with KaTeX and
MathQuill, unclear on MathJax.

Han

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Peter Krautzberger <
peter.krautzberger@mathjax.org> wrote:

> > the source code (html) of the page is as important as the final
> rendering and mixing different ways to do math in a single page would make
> difficult to understands the example.
>
> Thanks, makes sense.
>
> > Regarding MathJax [...]
>
> I'll get started on some examples for MathJax.
>
> We might want to use an issue to coordinate which tools we know of / would
> hope to see (e.g., the various SVG renderers).
>
> Best regards,
> Peter.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Daniel Marques <dani@wiris.com> wrote:
>
>> Well… the idea is that the source code (html) of the page is as important
>> as the final rendering and mixing different ways to do math in a single
>> page would make difficult to understands the example.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regarding MathJax, I think that two different examples are valid. The
>> first one is an example with MathML on the page and the <script> tag. The
>> other one is the output (if I understand well that means the static HTML
>> and CSS). As another example, there is something like “accessibility
>> support such as volkers speech rule engine”. I do not know very much about
>> it but it is worth that somewhere it is explained because it might be of
>> interest for the CG.
>>
>>
>>
>> At this stage, I don’t think we are ready to provide a solution but
>> rather collect the existing know-how of the members. That’s the reason I
>> would prefer as many ways to do math as possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> My only concern is whether each example should follow a fixed template or
>> how they should be sort out.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dani
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Peter Krautzberger [mailto:peter.krautzberger@mathjax.org]
>> *Sent:* viernes, 29 de abril de 2016 11:16
>> *To:* Daniel Marques
>> *Cc:* Moritz Schubotz; public-mathonwebpages@w3.org
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Collection of examples suggestion
>>
>>
>>
>> Dani,
>>
>>
>>
>> Good idea! It will probably be relevant to have multiple representations
>> (different methods of creating HTML/CSS, SVG, PNGs etc). (Minor squibble:
>> MathJax does not fit into the list, I think, though its output does.)
>>
>>
>>
>> I would propose to start on the wiki but I can't seem to be able to find
>> it :-(
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to propose to jump to GitHub right away, where we'd also
>> have a wiki.
>>
>>
>>
>> If people don't object, @Ivan would you have the time to set up a repo
>> for us?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Daniel Marques <dani@wiris.com> wrote:
>>
>> HI Moritz,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not referring to an exhaustive list of the math that should be
>> covered but how math is put into Web pages. For example, using MathJax,
>> using SVG, using static HTML and CSS, using flexbox, etc. I would also like
>> to see examples with different ways to do accessibility (using alt or aria
>> attributes), etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dani
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Moritz Schubotz [mailto:schubotz@tu-berlin.de]
>> *Sent:* jueves, 28 de abril de 2016 16:19
>> *To:* Daniel Marques
>> *Cc:* public-mathonwebpages@w3.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Collection of examples suggestion
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> As promised on the (at least my) last MathJax meeting I'm working on that.
>>
>> Actually I'm working on that today.
>>
>> Currently I have the following lists of input all TeX sources
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Math/CoverageTest
>>
>> https://github.com/wikimedia/texvcjs/blob/master/test/en-wiki-formulae.json
>> https://github.com/physikerwelt/utf8tex
>>
>> If you have more datasets I'm very interested.
>>
>> In addition I collected MathML input from input for inclusion in mediawiki
>> https://github.com/konrad/JATS-to-Mediawiki/issues/11
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Moritz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Daniel Marques <dani@wiris.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everybody,
>>
>>
>>
>> Great meeting and now we know each other better!
>>
>>
>>
>> My suggestion is to collect examples of how formulas are currently put
>> into a Web page. Each example would be a single formula written in an html
>> page together with any additional resource it depends (css, images, js). We
>> can store the examples in the github repo we talked in a previous email.
>> The examples should be as rich as possible (accessibility, styling, …)
>> depending on the feature is wanted to express.
>>
>>
>>
>> The idea behind the collection is that we understand better the different
>> solutions we are offering or we know from the members of the group. Later
>> on, when we try to write down the requirements, we will be able to point
>> into the examples.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Dani
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Moritz Schubotz
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