Re: Final CFP: In-Use Track ISWC 2013

Hi Sebastien,

I use latex as well. Utopia is a pdf reader.

But utopia does support referencing bits of the pdf. As I understand, they
are moving to extending the open annotation ontology. I've cc'd Steve
Pettifer who created Utopia and who will known the ins-and-outs.

Currently, they store all the annotations separately.

Thanks
Paul



On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Sebastian Hellmann <
hellmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:

>  Hi Paul,
> personally for me latex works best, because it has good editors and
> support for description logic formulas. Plus it is widely used and quite
> good for PDF typesetting.
>
> It would be really swell to be able to address content within PDF with
> identifiers. Did Utopia solve that problem?
>
> I am asking along the lines of
> - mediafragments [1]
> - RFC 5147 text fragment identifier (see the example at the bottom of [2])
> - xpointer/xpath [3]
>
> If yes, I would like to use it immediately. There are plans to convert the
> Google Mention corpus (which includes PDF's) to NIF [2] .
> The PDF Open Parameters provided by [4] are way too simple.
>
> All the best,
> Sebastian
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/media-frags/
> [2] (example is at the bottom of .ttl file)
> http://persistence.uni-leipzig.org/nlp2rdf/ontologies/nif-core
> [3] e.g. http://example.com/exampledoc.html#xpath(/html/body
> [1]/h2[1]/span[1]/text()[1])
> [4]
> http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/en/acrobat/PDFOpenParameters.pdf#page=7
>
> Am 02.05.2013 12:55, schrieb Paul Groth:
>
> Hi Sarven,
>
>  Beyond the PDF for me is moving beyond the current research
> communication system as highlighted by the Force 11 manifesto (
> http://www.force11.org/white_paper). This includes adopting technologies
> that augment/extend (i.e. go beyond) existing technologies. For example,
> making data easily accessible and citable, providing links to online
> content, making multiple perspectives on content available, exposing
> provenance, using altmetrics. I'm very influenced by the work on Utopia (
> http://utopiadocs.com) so that's why I think using pdfs are fine - you
> can do a lot with them as they stand - and for a certain form of
> communication (written long form text) they work well. As technologist we
> need to make sure that these new technologies work well in the environment
> and connect to other things.
>
>  cheers
> Paul
>
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> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 05/02/2013 12:23 PM, Paul Groth wrote:
>>
>>> I think Harry makes the point better than I can.
>>>
>>
>>  Paul, I have one last question for you if you don't mind, because it
>> seems like you are not interested in playing this out and I don't want to
>> bother you further: what does "beyond the PDF" mean to you?
>>
>> -Sarven
>>
>>
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